Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

siegecrossbow

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I usually don't watch these Caucasian(Western) analysts.. They all repeat the same thing about Western systems are better, western products are better, China is going to collapse. Caucasians are trying very hard to maintain their power.

Many surveys will tell you that 21th is the Asia century.

May 7th = Chinese Bekka Valley Turkey Shoot.

AR = Chinese Desert Storm.

Before things are settled IRL they can come up with whatever stupid cope they’d like. Just don’t complain about “Moneky Models” Soviet Russia style when things don’t go the way they like.

Abusing goat herders and peasants in third world countries have given these people way too much arrogance and confidence.
 

Aniah

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I was wondering what's going on after returning to this thread, but it just seems that all the people I've blocked are posting stupid shiet from YouTube or giving some braindead take. I mean, I understood why those people did it; I had them blocked for a reason, but maybe we should be more strict on what type of YouTube channels/content are allowed to be posted here.
 

secretprojects

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The side-by-side seating is something weird to latch onto, given that most bombers, many helicopters and other aircraft have this sort of layout. Tandem seating is overall an exception and generally done because it's easier to implement into an already existing airframe without immense changes.
In a fighter, tandem seating is preferable for minimum frontal cross-section (lower drag) and visibility reasons. Side-by-side seating generally increases drag.
 

Lethe

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For the TFX program that became the F-111, the Air Force wanted tandem seating to maximise visibility over the nose for the low-level attack role. The Navy wanted side-by-side seating to maximise crew performance in the fleet air defence role, for which they also wanted an enormous radar that would necessarily be housed within a broad nose. Ring any bells?
 
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taxiya

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In a fighter, tandem seating is preferable for minimum frontal cross-section (lower drag) and visibility reasons. Side-by-side seating generally increases drag.
You are only right when talking about classic aircraft. However, in a fly wing design the whole fuselage is generating lift or creating drag, a side-by-side cockpit is just part of the wing/liftbody. If you blame the cockpit for drag you should blame the whole aircraft for drag.
 

mack8

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The bigger the aircraft the more side-seating is preferred it seems. J-36 is big, side-by-side seating for it seems to be chosen as the optimum compromise between tactical (pilot workload/mission) and aerodynamic considerents (the drag of such a cockpit on the large aircraft presumably not being a significantly increased factor compared to a tandem seating). We can also look at factors such as the big wide nose for big front and side arrays probably mixes better with side-cockpits etc.
 
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