A look inside the Chinese Beidou system receiver

TyroneG said:

Rare earth and Propellant are considered natural resources. Yes, you definitely want to get natural resources from others , just like Oil. They are not related to made parts.

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Only part correct here. Yes.... most countries with oil reserve would still prefer to get natural resource from others... why? Because of a couple of things...

1) Cheaper - so it still boils down - ta daaa... economic.
2) Some of the oil reserve in that country are much more difficult to extract.
3) Don't have the technology to extract the oil
4) Political reason (Green movement, letting other deplete their oil so they can be the last one still standing with oil, etc)

It is exactly like made parts. It is business and that is all to it. And might I remind you... US is moving back to extracting oil from their own country now, because they might find it cheaper and faster that way.

Not to mention the possibility of export. with the middle east burning with internal conflicts Fracking offers the US a easy export to allied states.

rhino123 said:

You don't just look at economic as economic... pure and simple, because when it came to national issue, economic is not just economic.

It is a bit complicated here...

Look to outsourcing of US components to other country. Yes, they do outsource. But the main manufacturing are build in US itself when it came to military equipment. So the majority of the assembly is there, and the most sensitive assembly is there too... as well as the design house, etc etc.
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Well, that's I am trying to say! As some other members advocate China to use outsourced parts due to availability and economic factor. They keep on saying to import AL-31F engine, for example because they are available and at good economic factor..

rhino123 said:

Only part correct here. Yes.... most countries with oil reserve would still prefer to get natural resource from others... why? Because of a couple of things...

1) Cheaper - so it still boils down - ta daaa... economic.
2) Some of the oil reserve in that country are much more difficult to extract.
3) Don't have the technology to extract the oil
4) Political reason (Green movement, letting other deplete their oil so they can be the last one still standing with oil, etc)

It is exactly like made parts. It is business and that is all to it. And might I remind you... US is moving back to extracting oil from their own country now, because they might find it cheaper and faster that way.

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well, US ain't give up controlling the mid east Oil route for other nations through the sea for sure even if they are using less domestically.

Equation said:

iphone (the whole thing) AND everything electronics?

Or unless you're talking about the DF-21D ASBM, high speed train, and HQ-9 (with a 100% kill ratio from Turkey's air defense testing)?

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China only does assembly of iPhone system.

TyroneG said:

Can you give an example of product US outsrourcing to another country that it Cannot possibly do on its own?

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TyroneG said:

China only does assembly of iPhone system.

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So where is the US "assembly of iPhone" plants than? This is in response from your previous question. You do know that China has their own design and manufactured smart phones right? Xiaomi is now China's top brand for smart phones.

Funny Tyrone this (right here in my hand being typed on) Nokia Lumina 520 (i know its not top of the line) is covered in Chinese trade markings.

TyroneG said:

Well, that's I am trying to say! As some other members advocate China to use outsourced parts due to availability and economic factor. They keep on saying to import AL-31F engine, for example because they are available and at good economic factor..

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You still don't understand... sigh...

It is not because China cannot manufacture engines... they have manufactured engines - the WS-10A. The main problem now is...

1) they don't manufactured enough, so some of the aircraft needed to go with other engines.
2) I am not saying China suddenly become incredible with their engine technology, but they are getting there.
3) J-10 was designed with AL-31 engines right from the beginning... and to put in another engine needed major redesigning, this had long been discussed. It doesn't mean China cannot build engine.
4) Again... with the economic factor, the engine is there, it is available, it is good.

And who did the manufacturing of Chinese fighters? Chinese in China in Chinese factory right? Right here... this model work well for the Chinese.

For the US, say F-22, why do they use their own Engine? Because their own engines are available, they are the best option out there, the F-22 was design to use that engine right from the start... So... there all the above four points are ticked.

Is that simple enough for you now?

TyroneG said:

China only does assembly of iPhone system.

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Sigh... <shaking head now>

Do you actually know that most sub-component in iPhone is, "Made in China"? Seriously.

Secondly... do you know China had their own brand of mobile phone that are in no way inferior to iPhone? and have you heard of Huawei?

Do you know that one of the fastest supercomputer in the world (yes, this is not a typo... in the world) came from China? The list go on and on and on. So what the hell is a small little iPhone?

Shaking head...

TyroneG said:

well, US ain't give up controlling the mid east Oil route for other nations through the sea for sure even if they are using less domestically.

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Again... did I say that US is giving up controlling the mid east oil route? I say they are moving back to extracting oil in their own nation, that is not equal to giving up of mid east... and I believe I said it before... and I will say it again... you assume and think too much in what other is trying to express.