2023 Pakistan Civil Unrest

ansy1968 said:

Its the same when the US had influence, here Marcos campaign to follow Duterte's independent policy BUT deviate when in office. We all know his family history so did the American, they just pull the lever and wallah!!! a Pro US policy and the American didn't need to spend a dime...lol

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Rafi said:

This was a rare occurrence where the Chinese and the yanks were on the same page, IK was going rogue, and the Milestablishment did its job and withdraw support and he was voted our in a vote of confidence.

The Mil have always been there as a guarantee to keep politicians from messing with core interests such as relationship with China, nuclear program and india policy all these are red lines for them

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vincent said:

Because elites the world over can immigrate their entire families to the US. China doesn’t allow immigrations except in some narrow cases.

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TK3600 said:

What was the example of him going rogue?

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Rafi said:

Questioning CPEC, saying that we have no choice regarding the so called oppression of Uigurs etc.

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Dalit said:

It was easy because the military allowed it to happen. In Pakistan nothing happens without the approval of military generals. The Pakistani generals think that they are the ultimate authority with regards to political matters. You are absolutely correct.

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Dalit said:

In Pakistan political parties despise each other. The military also likes to politically interfere. The Americans have figured out that the only way to control Pakistan is through the military. The Americans have controlled much of the political proceedings throughout Pakistan's existence with the help of the Pakistani army.

For much of the past decade the Pakistani military and the US have been at loggerheads during the war in Afghanistan. Although the Pakistani military always holds a soft spot for the Americans. You have to realise that many highly placed Pakistani military officials receive training in the US. There are military exchange programs between the US and Pakistan. Many Pakistani military officers retire in the US. Many relatives and family members belonging to Pakistani military officers reside in the US. Pakistani military officials and Pakistani elites have businesses in the US. You can understand the conflict of interest.

As soon as the the US/NATO war in Afghanistan ended, the Americans realised that the only way to leverage Afghanistan would be through the Pakistani military. The CIA began to rebuild covert relations with the Pakistani army. Imran Khan was ousted. It is no secret that the US disapproved Imran Khan's way of politics.

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Dalit said:

China has sincere intentions with regards to Pakistan. The Pakistani people overwhelmingly support Chinese investment and assistance in Pakistan. China is a direct neighbor of Pakistan. Pakistan is unfortunately unable to reap the full benefits of a rising China. One would have thought that after all the misfortunes Pakistan would finally learn from mistakes. Unfortunately Pakistan has not learnt. Mostly because the Pakistani elite are unreliable and untrustworthy.

China has already invested a vast amount of money in Pakistan. It would be wise for China to stay the course, but cautiously.

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Dalit said:

Don't also forget that it is in US/Indian interest to disturb the relationship between China and Pakistan. It is no secret that the US/India are vehemently opposed to China Pakistan relations in any shape or form.

It makes absolute sense from a US/Indian perspective to destabilize Pakistan economically and politically. That would make it difficult for China to develop CPEC. No country can invest in a politically and economically unstable country.

Pakistani elites are in a sense their own enemy.

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