the original design first appear in the internet in 2001 appear to be cross betwen Z-9 and tiger,tail rotor and retratable wheel from Z-9 ,a vertical seating rather side by side arrangement similiar to tiger AH.
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the original design first appear in the internet in 2001 appear to be cross betwen Z-9 and tiger,tail rotor and retratable wheel from Z-9 ,a vertical seating rather side by side arrangement similiar to tiger AH.
im so confused with this wz and z designation
cause i thought wz is designated as attack heli while z is just heli...wz-9, wz-10 both attack heli and z-10, z-9 are just utility/transport heli...it translates differently between english and chinese cause chinese is basically english backwards :roll: and pinyin is different
Me to ! ... but currently - esp. with the sighting of the latest close up of no-03 prototype - I think there's no WZ-designation for the combat type.
Maybe once it was planed to call the civil/utility-version Z-10 and the combat-version WZ-10 but as we can se on the tail it's only called Z-10 !
In a similar way the sometimes WZ-9 called armed version of the Z-9 is designated Z-9WA ... !
Just an idea, which may solve that confusion.
Deino
Can it be that as there isen't any other version from this new chopper, why to bother call it WZ, rather than just Z? With WZ-9 the designation is clearly to seperate the armed version of the standart Z-9 but with Z-10 case there isen't any civilian/unarmed version of the chopper...
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I'm not sure if you guys know Chinese. But I'll try to explain according to what I know: The letter "W" here stands for "Wuzhuang" which means "armed", while "Z" stands for "Zhi" which means "Vertical" (helicopter). So, choppers with single "Z" designation are unarmed choppers, while those with "W" are armed version. It's easy to understand.
Agreed ... and even if I don't speak Chinese that's the most widely belived designation ... but the Z-10 clearly has only Z-10 written on its tail and as far as I know the WZ-9 is called Z-9WA.
And Dongfeng and huitong, the guys that I trust most in these chinese aviation issues, both references the copter as a Z-10 although they both are quite clear about the designation differences of Z and WZ.
Also if the letter Z comes from a chinese word which means vertical, Am I right when I assume that the word itself doesen't mean unarmed, just like the word "helicopter" doesen't mean that either?? So like I said earlier, the WZ designation is used when seperating a new armed version of already existing helicopter that wasen't unarmed. With the new attackcopter, there is no reasons to dedicately describe it as an "armed copter" as its rather obvious given its function that it is an armed one. Also there isen't any unarmed variant available. So why bother to use the WZ designation.
Also if the letter Z comes from a chinese word which means vertical, Am I right when I assume that the word itself doesen't mean unarmed, just like the word "helicopter" doesen't mean that either?? So like I said earlier, the WZ designation is used when seperating a new armed version of already existing helicopter that wasen't unarmed. With the new attackcopter, there is no reasons to dedicately describe it as an "armed copter" as its rather obvious given its function that it is an armed one. Also there isen't any unarmed variant available. So why bother to use the WZ designation.
this is kind of interesting. This is from a recent military electronics display. I'm not sure if these would be used on Z-10 or not (I suspect no), but at least they are showcasing these IR jammers and Laser warning receivers.
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Here is what the civilian version looks like.
In wiki,somone entered the entry as WZ-10. I've seen other references all it 'WZ-10'.
Let me add something. I find it very difficult to believe there is a "brochure" of an attack helicopter or weapons system that isn't even fielded in the PLA yet and now there is a brochure trying to export it?
Second, it is a long standing policy that for military use, they will try to use as many domestically made components as much as possible in order to reduce vulrnerabilities to foreign dependence. In the end, the final product will have either a Chinese made part, whether it is indigenously designed, directly licensed or reverse engineered from other sources. In the Z-8s for example, foreign made components may be found in the civilian used versions, but the PLA ones will always use domestically made ones. In fact, they go out of their way into expensive programs trying to replace as many foreign dependencies as much as possible, like the various turbine engine projects.
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