So what you are saying is that the original design of WZ-10 was started by Kamov. But it was stopped as soon as it started. Then the final product has almost nothing to do with the original Kamov design since it's been changed totally by the Chinese. But The whole starting point of this project was with the cooperation of Kamov, even though it is now an all different design. Am I right by saying that?
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Incidentally, the project has been start from scratch. The closest to him, a prototype helicopter Ka-50
The Chinese side has paid for and received the draft. In "iron", it epitomized his own. Over the 10 past years helicopter certainly changed a lot of equipment, but little has changed outwardly
The Chinese side has paid for and received the draft. In "iron", it epitomized his own. Over the 10 past years helicopter certainly changed a lot of equipment, but little has changed outwardly
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So, in the end WZ-10 has nothing to do with kamov since it was started from scratch. Just like the latest Type-99 MBT has nothing to do with American helps in the mid 80s, even though they did help the Chinese on MBT designs.
What are you claim is weary interresting and give a total new perspective to the whole issue. But plese give us some eveidence
Actually from what he claims it doesn't give us any new perspective on the origin of WZ-10. Coz as he said the current WZ-10 was an all new and different design (started from scratch). :coffee:
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So why did the Chinese even bother why Kamov in the first place, then?
imo from what we've been seeing, they have been assessing all their options and competitions so they do not have to re-invent the wheel. it is also wiser to think before one leaps.
It's simple. Just like any other industrial projects, before the cooperation with Kamov, China didn't know they would come up with their own attack helicopter design in the next 10 years. So at that time any kinds of design from a more experienced company (like Kamov) is better than nothing at all.
But in the end whether the Chinese would adopt the foreign design or not was another matter. In this case, they didn't. They started their own project which came out to be the current WZ-10.
So when you didn't know what would happen in the future, you could only do the next best thing which might not be a smart or right thing to do when you look back into the history (like what we are doing, now). But you could never say you shouldn't even bother to do it at the first place.
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I don't doubt there was probably Russian consultation on the WZ-10 but it's suspicious since that drawing is supposedly from 1995 and the WZ-10 turned out to be nearly exact more than all the others that claim the design came from their countries? Plus this would be a radical change in Russian design if it came from them.
There are pics out there of other suspected WZ-10 prototypes since 1995. Would the Chinese bother with other concepts when they had the "winning" design since 1995?
There are pics out there of other suspected WZ-10 prototypes since 1995. Would the Chinese bother with other concepts when they had the "winning" design since 1995?
So you are saying the body is a Russian design. I find that very doubtful because there is no helicopter in Russian that looks like WZ-10. WZ-10 looks a lot more similar to other western designs in terms of layout such as the Tiger. And why would Russian just gave away such a good body design to the Chinese without using it themselves.
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