TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
23mm seems the most logical and likely, the round is already pretty prodigious in the PLA, the seem to not use 20mm and I have never heard of a 22mm
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by78
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That 22 was a typo. Corrected.
Blackstone
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By78- thanks for the outstanding pictures. It's true some are old ones, but the very high resolution format is much appreciated.
by78
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You are welcome.
Everybody loves high-resolution photos: why have VHS when you can have Blu-ray?
Black Shark
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What's that supposed to mean?
Ka-50 for instance is among the most bueatiful helicopter you can imagine.
The other point that was made or better to say asked in this threat quite a few time ago (year 2011/12) and stayed unanswered was, that why the WZ-10 has so far no IR-suppressors.
The current WZ-10 are equipped with WZ-9 engines with a chamber temperature of about 750° Celsius and IR suppressors are designed for specific exhaust temperatures and their bounderies of minimum and maximum chamber temp.
Due the embargo by US on china which prevented the old deal with Pratt and Whitney to use the PTC7 engines which were also distinguishable from the old Prototype WZ-10 which china recieved from Kamov company with the engine exhaust pipes facing upwards towards rotor blades and the current one facing to the sides which were designed for the WZ-9 and the upcoming WZ-16 engines which will be used on Thunderbolt which will boost the current HP/t ratio from 168.75 shp/t nominal under MTOW to 285.78 shp/t nominal under MTOW which is the 2nd highest and will probably be the highest shp/t ratio of all current attak helicopters. The chamber temp. of the WZ-16 and the IR-suppressors are already in test-conditions and are tested on seperate plattforms in same manner as all major militaries do.
If some new installments or adjustments are have to be done on an unready or still testplattform they test components seperatley on plattforms that are easy and modular to test like russians have tested every single components for Mi-24/28 on Mi-8 helicopters and US did the same with first UH-1 later with UH-60's and China does it most probably with Mi-8/17's.
Under the current ongoings or better to say the current calmness around China's helicopter fleet they have not to hurry just to install some IR-suppressors and waste money and make probable mistakes in development just to say "first" 29 years after Soviets.
Another point made by some users also quite time ago... (i know new users love to run races that are already finished)
And was followed with this
The point of this development and procurement of such technologies specially for Attack Helicopters lies within their capabilities which will surpass in near future threats that come from SHORADS and AA's since they are almost invisible and are most times filtered by software of pulse doppler radars and still by some newer AESA radars of SHORADS which will give them the higher and even safer capabilities to be used in DEAD/SEAD missions while Jets can't fly into overlapping anti-aircraft fortified enemy territory without getting spotted before getting the chance to deliver its package.
At the moment US has not finished the procurement of this technology in active duty and russian's are also in procurement of this technologies, for instance since 2011/12 intensive tests with Zala Aeronetwork on Mi-8 testplattforms for small scaled airdroppable drones of 2-8kg class are tested which will be used on Ka-52 which have a flight radius of 20-120 km and the further programm of this airdroppable drones is to use the ZALA 421 drones to be equipped with 1-2kg explosive charge and use them as top attack weapons against various of targets from soft to hard skinned. The Zala Aeronetwork is already installed on Ka-52's which can be seen on the black antennas on the wingtips which are the transmitters, while US uses the AN/APG-78 Longbow as such which has disadvantages as advantages, but that is another story.
I joined this forum since i have a hard time to find credible sources and information on WZ-10, so i hopped for some help from chinese speaking people and sources such as military magazines for example.
broadsword
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Black Shark,
Welcome to the forum.
Welcome to the forum.
Black Shark
Junior Member
Thanks.
Welcome on board and I'm sure here You will find what You are looking for on CHinese projects !
If not here, ... then where else ?
Besides that nice to meet yet another fellow countrymen, who's also a China-enthusiast.
Deino
If not here, ... then where else ?
Besides that nice to meet yet another fellow countrymen, who's also a China-enthusiast.
Deino
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