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solarz

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Here is another spin from AP accusing China of shoot first and ask question later when the authority was searching for a wanted known terrorist leader.


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Sweden-based Uighur (pronounced WEE'-gur) activist Dilxat Raxit said Sunday's incident was the latest example of how Chinese security forces are increasingly opting to kill suspects at the scene rather than capturing them and putting them on trial. Police also killed nine assailants in the attack on the police station in November.

"They are now opening fire and killing people, then calling them terrorists," Raxit said by phone. "This deprives them of their right to defend themselves in a court."

What? You mean the Chinese police shot these people in cold blood while they were only going about their business attacking law enforcement patrols with firearms and explosives? How shocking! The Chinese police should have returned fire with only tasers so these guys can have a fair trial. That's how democratic countries do things... right?
 

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NEW DELHI — The arrest and alleged strip search of an Indian diplomat in New York City escalated into a major diplomatic furor Tuesday as India's national security adviser called the woman's treatment "despicable and barbaric."

Devyani Khobragade, India's deputy consul general in New York, is accused of submitting false documents to obtain a work visa for her Manhattan housekeeper. Indian officials said she was arrested and handcuffed Thursday as she dropped off her daughter at school, and was kept in a cell with drug addicts before posting $250,000 bail.

A senior Indian official confirmed reports that she also was strip-searched, which has been portrayed in India as the most offensive and troubling part of the arrest. The official spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.

Her U.S. attorney said he didn't know if she was strip-searched. Federal authorities said they were looking into the arrest.
"We understand that this is a sensitive issue for many in India," said Marie Harf, State Department deputy spokeswoman. "Accordingly, we are looking into the intake procedures surrounding this arrest to ensure that all appropriate procedures were followed and every opportunity for courtesy was extended."

Harf said that federal authorities would work on the issue with India "in the spirit of partnership and cooperation that marks our broad bilateral relationship."

India was ready to retaliate against American diplomats in India by threatening to downgrade privileges and demanding information about how much they pay their Indian household staff, according to the Press Trust of India news agency.
Police also removed the traffic barricades near the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi, a demand by the Indian government in retaliation for Khobragade's treatment, PTI reported. The barriers were a safety measure.

"We got orders to remove the concrete barriers," said Amardeep Sehgal, station house officer of the Chanakyapuri police station, the one nearest the embassy. "They were obstructing traffic on the road." He refused to say who had given the orders.

Calls to the U.S. Embassy were not immediately returned Tuesday.

National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon slammed Khobragade's treatment in New York.

"It is despicable and barbaric," he said.

Prosecutors in New York say Khobragade, 39, claimed she paid her Indian maid $4,500 per month but actually paid her less than the U.S. minimum wage. In order for diplomats and consular officers to get a visa for their personal employees, known as an A-3 visa, they must show proof that the applicant will receive a fair wage, comparable to employment in the U.S., U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement last week.

Federal prosecutors say Khobragade told the housekeeper she would be paid 30,000 rupees per month — about $573, or $3.31 per hour. The woman worked for the family from about November 2012 through June 2013, and said she worked far more than 40 hours per week and was paid even less than 30,000 rupees, prosecutors said.

Khobragade has pleaded not guilty and plans to challenge the arrest on grounds of diplomatic immunity, her lawyer said last week.

If convicted, Khobragade faces a maximum sentence of 10 years for visa fraud and five years for making a false declaration. She was arrested outside of her daughter's Manhattan school.

"We are distressed at the treatment that Dr. Khobragade has received at the hands of U.S. authorities," said her lawyer, Daniel Arshack, he said she should have diplomatic immunity.

Her case quickly became a major story in India, with politicians urging diplomatic retaliation and TV news channels showing the woman in a series of smiling family photos.

That reaction may look outsized in the United States, but the case touches on a string of issues that strike deeply in India, where the fear of public humiliation resonates strongly and heavy-handed treatment by the police is normally reserved for the poor. For an educated, middle-class woman to face public arrest and a strip search is almost unimaginable, except in the most brutal crimes.

Far less serious protocol complaints have become big issues in the past. Standard security checks in the U.S. regularly are front-page news here when they involve visiting Indian dignitaries, who are largely exempt from friskings while at home.
India's former speaker of Parliament, Somnath Chatterjee, once refused to attend an international meeting in Australia when he wasn't given a guarantee that he would not have to pass through security. Chatterjee said even the possibility of a security screening was "an affront to India."

The treatment and pay of household staff, meanwhile, is largely seen as a family issue, off-limits to the law.
The fallout from the arrest was growing. On Tuesday, Indian political leaders from both the ruling party and the opposition refused to meet with the U.S. congressional delegation in New Delhi. The Indian government said it was "shocked and appalled at the manner in which the diplomat had been humiliated" in the U.S.

Indian Foreign Secretary Sujata Singh summoned U.S. Ambassador Nancy Powell to register a complaint.
In Washington, U.S. State Department deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf said Tuesday that the department's diplomatic security team followed standard procedures during the arrest. After her arrest, Khobragade was handed over to U.S. marshals for intake and processing, she said.

Harf also noted that there is diplomatic immunity and consular immunity. Under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, the Indian deputy consul general enjoys immunity from the jurisdiction of U.S. courts only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of consular functions, she said.

Khobragade's father, Uttam Khobragade, told the TimesNow TV news channel on Tuesday that his daughter's treatment was "absolutely obnoxious."

"As a father I feel hurt, our entire family is traumatized," he said.

Indian External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid said there were "larger issues" involved in the case, but did not elaborate.
"We will deal with them in good time," he said.
 

MwRYum

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What? You mean the Chinese police shot these people in cold blood while they were only going about their business attacking law enforcement patrols with firearms and explosives? How shocking! The Chinese police should have returned fire with only tasers so these guys can have a fair trial. That's how democratic countries do things... right?

When you know where those BS came from, sarcasm is a waste of resources.
 

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... Stay classy -face palm-

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TerraN_EmpirE

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India demolishes US embassy barriers after diplomat’s arrest in America
By David K. Li and Post Wires December 17, 2013 | 11:06am
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India demolishes US embassy barriers after diplomat’s arrest in America
A bulldozer demolishes a barricade outside of the US embassy in New Delhi after the arrest of Devyani Khobragade
who was accused of underpaying her nanny.
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India’s government – incensed over the arrest of a female diplomat in Manhattan last week – has retaliated by removing the security barriers in front of the US embassy in New Delhi, the country’s main news agency reported.
Tow trucks and a backhoe were used to haul off the long concrete barriers — designed to prevent cars from speeding up to the embassy’s gates – that had been in front of the compound. The Press Trust of India reported that the government was behind the move.
We got orders to remove the concrete barriers,” said a cop near the embassy.
Asked why, he sniffed, “They were obstructing traffic on the road.”
The heavy-handed retaliation was sparked by the arrest of Devyani Khobragade, India’s deputy consul general for political, economic, commercial and women’s affairs in Manhattan, for allegedly mistreating her female nanny.
The feds charged that Khobragade lied on a visa application to get the Indian national into the United States and then paid her a paltry $3.31 an hour.
Khobragade was handcuffed and reportedly strip-searched after her bust, treatment considered particularly demeaning for a woman in her country.India’s officials fumed that she was even held in a cell with drug addicts.
India’s national security adviser, Shivshankar Menon, branded Khobragade’s arrest “barbaric.”
He and leaders of the country’s two main political parties refused to meet a delegation of US lawmakers visiting India this week over the flap.
One of the politicians who was supposed to be at the meeting later tweeted, “Refused to meet the visiting USA delegation in solidarity with our nation, protesting ill-treatment meted (out) to our lady diplomat in USA.’’
In retaliation for Khobragade’s arreset, India’s government also was threatening to downgrade privileges for some US embassy workers there — and even demand information about how much they pay their own Indian household staff, PTI reported.
A high-ranking official of the Bharatiya Janata Party – currently the largest opposition group in Indian and favored to win upcoming elections — urged India to arrest the domestic partners of any gay US officials there.
India’s Supreme Court, in a ruling last week, essentially deemed homosexuality there illegal.
“The reason why they have arrested this Indian diplomat in New York is violation of the law of the land in the United States,” said the politician, former Finance Minister Yashwant Sinha.
“Now the same violation is taking place wherever US embassy official have obtained visas for their partners of the same sex.
“If American law can apply to Indian diplomats in New York, the Indian law can apply here.”
Khobragade and her New York lawyer could not be immediately reached for comment.
She was released on $250,000 bail after a hearing in Manhattan Federal Court on Thursday.
“We understand that this is a sensitive issue for many in India,” said State Department Deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf of Khobragade’s arrest.
“Accordingly, we are looking into the intake procedures surrounding this arrest to ensure that all appropriate procedures were followed and every opportunity for courtesy was extended.”
While the deputy consul’s lawyer has argued that she should have diplomatic immunity, US officials said that would only cover crimes committed in connection with her work.
Khobragade’s father, Uttam Khobragade, told the TimesNow TV news channel that his daughter’s treatment was “absolutely obnoxious.
“As a father, I feel hurt, our entire family is traumatized,” he said.

so India is coming down on the US state over this affair. that all started over a child care dispute.
 

AssassinsMace

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I think India is more upset at the treatment than the crime. If she's a diplomat, I think it's obvious what they're more upset about. If I were US diplomatic staff in India, I wouldn't travel outside. Then you have the strip search. Look at how India had a warrant for actor Richard Gere's arrest just because he playfully kissed an Indian actress in public.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Its a head ache for sure. The Indians are waving diplomatic immunity to and fro. But how far does that actually apply? I mean the US is saying it goes only to the point of contention to diplomatic missions. IE spy games. Well other activities are not covered. Presumably this woman's nanny was working in this woman's New York home. Now one question is is that embassy property or just private residence. If private residences then New York law would have jurisdiction. If embassy then its Indian soil. As for the strip and holding? That's SOP. I mean does anyone expect someone being processed on a criminal charge to be granted champaign and caviar , a private cell in the ritz carlton and personal valet?
Despite the propaganda a prison is a prison. NYPD would likely have run her though the same thing as any other processing suspect. The search was likely performed by a female officer, under strict regulations. The new NYPD commissioner Bratton is a known stickler for that kinda thing.
the threats though are not good. By removing those barriers the Indians are potentially opening that embassy to attack from VIED types. By threatening the loved ones of American staff they are opening a whole new can of beans. I doubt they will act on it. As even for the Indian police the charge is rarely used and kept more as threat to intimidate then anything else.
 
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