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Chill here bros, you're two of my favorite people, and I can agree with you both, and I trust you both to do the right thing, I'd trust either one or both of you with my wallet and to take care of my family. As I said before, we all have a little bias, I hate to admit it, but I do, but you two stand out on this forum as "honorable men", and I'm proud to consider you both friends, and I have read both sets of posts, and you both make fine arguments. brat

Thanks for your intention man. I honestly don't mind being challenged or criticized in any of my ideas. Numerous members have challenged my ideas more than once, and while I do defend when I feel necessary, I also appreciate constructive feedbacks and thoughtful critiques. It's just frustrating when he repeatedly take my ideas and intentions out of context, spins it into his bias, then put it back into my mouth, then accuse me of it. It's the worst when I had explained myself multiple times that's either not what I meant, and even referred him to my original statements, then he presses on with some other nonsensical condemnations that are groundless, and spins it further. It's the most laughable when he thinks what I'm saying is personally directed at Chinese and Chinese only, when I have never even mentioned the word "Chinese" in any of these posts.
 

broadsword

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China's problem is always more of "enforcing" then "setting up" when comes to standards and stuff. Sure, with an enforced standard "crap" will be history, but for the producers it takes investments and huge mindset-tinkering to comply to standards (properly trained staff with the proper mentality, proper tools and equipment, management that no longer cut corners).

Thus, the society needs to demerit the mentality of cutting corners.

But most importantly, consumers who'd reward brands and producers who don't cut corners, by willing to pay more for quality...while the educated and middle-class moving into this category, most of China's population still stuck in the "cheap and quantity" era.

I would expect that China, with their political system, would have the "just do it" attitude in tackling shoddy consumer goods or at least the people loudly call on them to do it. I have products that break down a week after buying them. There is so much waste from producing craps. Can you imagine if their goods are just 75% of the durability of Japanese goods? I wonder if their people ever demand any action from their government.
 

solarz

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I would expect that China, with their political system, would have the "just do it" attitude in tackling shoddy consumer goods or at least the people loudly call on them to do it. I have products that break down a week after buying them. There is so much waste from producing craps. Can you imagine if their goods are just 75% of the durability of Japanese goods? I wonder if their people ever demand any action from their government.

Well you have to keep in mind that China has a huge income gap. Here in Canada, the minimum wage is 10$ an hour, or 1600$ a month for those who are employed full-time. Welfare is, I believe, 600$ a month on average.

A good professional salary is, what, 60k-70k a year? After taxes, you get around 40k. People with low income pay much lower taxes, and people on welfare don't pay any taxes at all.

In the end, you get a typical variation of 600$ to 3300$ in monthly income.

On the other hand, a good professional salary in Beijing or Shanghai is 10k-20k RMB per month, which would be an astronomical sum to a migrant worker, who might make around 2000 RMB per month. Even in smaller cities, a good salary would be only 5000 RMB per month.

So in China, there is a large demand for "crap" goods, just because they're affordable.
 

Equation

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Lol take an issue out of context? How am I even taking it out of context? Prove to me how I am doing that.

I think you should seriously learn to read:






Equation, put down your pen and read the instruction carefully before you begin. Only proceed AFTER you have completed the instructed task.

1. Read the following:

In other words, I never said shen's grandmother's action is wrong. Her action applies to# 2. I was merely taking the original action into 3 analysis because of the article in which the girl seemed to do this action for more than just #2, but also #3.

Finish reading that? Say yes and proceed to 2.

2. Read the following:

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Why are you accusing me of all the crimes you're committing? That's very funny of you. You're the one that's trying to over-simplifying things without looking into them deeper, while failing at it. The world has many grey areas, but those are usually when the stakes are so close that it's hard to take apart the utilities and impacts in terms of cost/benefits. Those are usually when the many will be affected, and the weights of both stakes are comparable. Personal attributions, on the other hand, sometimes can be much easily defined. There are also many situations, on the other hand, that are not even hard to identify and distinguish just by looking at the premises and intentions, purposes, natures of actions in order to prescribe them. It's not my fault that you're unable to distinguish right and wrong. If you get a headache from thinking, it's not my fault neither. Putting the blame on others doesn't make you smart, if not expose the severity of your weakness.
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Finish reading? Proceed to 3.

3. Read the following:

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I also never said my words are golden. Do you have OCD when it comes to putting words in people's mouths?

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Finish reading? Proceed to 4.

4. If next time you say or reply something that I had already gone over several times, or simply because you can't read, I will just ignore you.

Please take instruction #4 with you on your way out. Thank you


I'm not going to take your silly childish flame bait game. Here is my question to you. Where in the article did it mention about that teenage girl being racist or inflaming hatred towards Japanese? It's you that is assuming that she is a racist without proven facts, therefore decided to take it upon yourself to think that she is. My main argument out of this is that it's okay for an article to publish something like this as to allow the previous perpetrating press a does of their own medicine with their anti China agenda.
 

Equation

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Look at what you've written. It doesn't make sense.

-->When did I even say I have problem with Chinese [insert action]? Don't put words in my mouth. It seems like everything I say, you think I'm taking it out personally against the Chinese. I would really prescribe you to some psychiatric counselling because what you're doing is not healthy.

Yes I just said that in my previous post. Now you're adopting my idea, which I'm fine because that just validates what I've just said.

That's why I suggested self-defence and deterrence strategy.

And I don't even know where this statement comes from.

My argument is about the double standard in meaning that it is somewhat okay for the western media to bash China therefore consumers needs to be aware not to buy "made in China" products. Now take that and turn it around with this story about the teenage girl standing up to what she believe and you will get what I mean. So, with that said, how many Japanese that are living in China had their store broken into and killed by Chinese vigilantes today? I thought so.
 

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Hello, you fellows need to stop the silly arguments..if not... I'll do like they use to at mp.net..make a news thread news only..no discussion. No foolin'

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Looks likes we got ourself a return of the Cold War, albeit a much smaller one.

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MOSCOW (AP) — Lithuania and Poland expressed concern on Monday about signals that Russia has deployed state-of-the-art missiles in a territory that borders the NATO countries.

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The U.S. State Department also said that it has urged Russia to avoid taking any steps that could destabilize that region.

Russia's Defense Ministry gave an oblique response Monday to a report in the German daily Bild claiming that Russia has sent the Iskander short-range missiles to its westernmost Kaliningrad exclave on the Baltic Sea. The ministry said the missiles had been positioned in an unspecified location in western Russia, and argued that the deployment doesn't contradict any international treaties.

While the ministry was coy about the exact location of the missiles, the Kremlin-friendly daily Izvestia, which reportedly has close links to Russian security agencies, said the missiles had been deployed more than a year ago.

Asked about the reported missile deployment, U.S. State Department deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf said Washington has "shared with Russia the concerns that countries in the neighborhood have ... regarding Russia's deployment of the Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad."

"We've urged Moscow to take no steps to destabilize the region," she said. "We've made that point with them."

If true, the reports about the Iskander deployment to Kaliningrad would come as no surprise.

President Vladimir Putin and other Russian officials have talked about such a move for years, casting it as a necessary counterbalance to the development of the U.S.-led NATO missile defense for Europe. Moscow sees the missile shield as a threat to its nuclear deterrent.

While the deployment of the Iskander missiles would have little impact on the military balance between Russia and NATO, it could further damage Russia's ties with the West, which already have been strained by disputes over the U.S. missile shield, Russia's human rights record and, most recently, Ukraine.

"I am worried about signals that Russia is about to modernize missile systems it has deployed in Kaliningrad," Lithuanian Defense Minister Juozas Olekas told reporters. "Further militarization of this region, bordering the Baltic states and NATO creates further anxiety, and we will be watching situation there closely."

The Polish foreign ministry said that while it did not have any official information from Russia, it was concerned about the reports.

"Deployment of Iskander missiles in the Kaliningrad Region would be against the spirit of positive cooperation between Poland and Russia," Foreign Ministry spokesman Marcin Wojciechowski said.

The Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Igor Konashenkov, said only that "specific areas of the Iskander missile systems' location in the Western Military District don't violate any international agreements." The Western Military District includes most provinces in western and northwestern Russia, including the Kaliningrad region.

The Iskander missile, which has a range of up to 500 kilometers (about 300 miles), travels at hypersonic speeds that make it very difficult to intercept and is capable of hitting targets with a precision of a few meters (yards). It was first used in action in Russia's 2008 war with Georgia.

It normally carries a conventional warhead, but some Russian media reports indicated that it can also be fitted with a nuclear one.

Thanks to their high accuracy and the capability to dodge enemy's defenses, the Iskander missiles boost the Russian military capability, but they so far have been deployed in relatively small numbers. Just a few dozen have entered service with the Russian military over the past few years, according to official statements.

Izvestia quoted Viktor Zavarzin, a deputy head of the defense committee in the lower house of Russian parliament, as saying the Iskander is needed to counterbalance NATO forces in Europe, including U.S. tactical nuclear weapons.

"We aren't threatening anyone. These are defensive systems," Zavarzin said, according to the newspaper.
 

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60 Minutes did a story on the NSA which was essential a pure PR stunt. They gave their spin on all the information Snowden has revealed and goes through explaining what the intelligence they gather is used for. They use a lot of trigger words meant to scare people. They talk about how China is a threat and plans to literally destroy everyone's computers in a cyber attack. Like Stuxnet? The thing is everything they say China is gathering over spying to use in this attack to destroy people's computer is exactly the same innocuous information Snowden said the NSA is gathering around the world. Before Snowden Obama put a target on China over cyber espionage knowing full well the NSA was doing the same. Charge someone for an evil act first, it makes it less serious when you do it. I also love the demographics of the people they interview. They try to make it look like the NSA environment is like working at Google.

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Here is another spin from AP accusing China of shoot first and ask question later when the authority was searching for a wanted known terrorist leader.


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BEIJING (AP) — China claimed Tuesday that a clash between police and locals in a restive far western region was an organized and premeditated attack by a small terrorist group.

The official Xinhua News Agency said that 16 people were killed in the Sunday night incident — 14 assailants and two police officers — in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang, home to a simmering rebellion against Chinese rule among parts of the Muslim Uighur population who want more autonomy from Beijing. Recent clashes, including an attack on a police station, left dozens of people dead this year.

The Chinese government typically calls such incidents terrorist attacks linked to radicals based overseas, although there is little evidence that they are carefully organized. In many cases, the violence appears caused by anger over poverty and strict rules on Uighur culture and Muslim worship.

Xinhua described the assailants as "terrorists" and said an initial investigation found that they were from a 20-member terrorist group led by a man identified as Hasan Ismail. Tuesday's report said six members of the group were captured, but it did not say if Ismail was among those killed or apprehended.

Police had been searching for Ismail in a village in Shufu county in far-west Kashgar prefecture came under attack with explosive devices and firearms at around 11 p.m., Xinhua said.

Calls to local authorities rang unanswered or were picked up by officials who said they did not know about the attack.

Sweden-based Uighur (pronounced WEE'-gur) activist Dilxat Raxit said Sunday's incident was the latest example of how Chinese security forces are increasingly opting to kill suspects at the scene rather than capturing them and putting them on trial. Police also killed nine assailants in the attack on the police station in November.

"They are now opening fire and killing people, then calling them terrorists," Raxit said by phone. "This deprives them of their right to defend themselves in a court."
 
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