Ukrainian War Developments

panzerfeist1 said:

No I respect opinions that have value if they are being compared to standards that were previously made for fair criticism, watching and talking about twitter or reddit posts to generalize your opinions don't really help that

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I respect other people's opnions even when I think they are wrong. Why? Because I may not know all the thought that went into their position before and they may not be able to articulate everything in their head. I know I can't always do so. Even when I am an area expert on something - not this - I still try to modicum of respect to someone who I know is wrong. I'm not an expert on military matters. However, I am extremely familiar with Ukraine.

panzerfeist1 said:

Are these Ukrainian sources or ghost of kyiv? some reports have said that they have only wenk with 50-60k, got more, than sent some troops back? warfare to reduce casualties shouldnt be compared if they are not using thermobaric weapons.

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Why not move all your armored units in asap? We are seeing them still stream in. I'm not talking about thermobaric weapons at all. But bring them. why not? They are terrifying even when not used.

FairAndUnbiased said:

Their only real choice is to accept Russian control of the east and join NATO/EU with something like ~12 million population with 2000 USD GDP per capita after losing their biggest industries and resources to Russia

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Why let them join EU/NATO though?
Just enforce to it neutral status and that it isn't allowed to join such any similar organisations

Ukrainian General Staff: The bombing of Kharkiv was carried out from the Russian Tu-22m3 strategic bomber. About 16 high-precision air-to-ground missiles were fired.

The bomber made four attacks on the route Besedina (Kursk region) - Belgorod and fired missiles without crossing the Ukrainian state border.

Suetham said:

The Russians were already preparing for this. They have what is called a

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Well there ya go. Problem solved!

anzha said:

Why not move all your armored units in asap? We are seeing them still stream in. I'm not talking about thermobaric weapons at all. But bring them. why not? They are terrifying even when not used.

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are these tactics always used by the west? is Ukraine comparable to Iraq? Was taking Iraqi casualties being taken into account like Ukraine?

Overbom said:

Why let them join EU/NATO though?
Just enforce to it neutral status and that it isn't allowed to join such any similar organisations

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"Let" them? They're their own country. They don't BELONG to Russia (not yet anyway).

Anlsvrthng said:

That Lukasenko presentation about the activity was very interesting.

On the map the many details , and the USA 1st Cavalry Division insignia .

Poland and the baltics had many details, but Slo/Hun/Ro haven't got any.


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I think it is a polite notification / warning.

Now, if we check on the Google earth the 1000 km distance from Moscow

Anything outside the circle needs 10 minutes of flight time to reach moscow.
And the countries detailed in lukasenko presentation the ones are within the circle.
Finland - neutral, without USA units, the three baltic state, and Poland.

I would be paranoid if I am polish .

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This is being reported as the Belarus accidently "leaking" war plans, but given he's talking about invasion plans on national TV so I'm sure it's deliberate.

It's all cold war games. America will call Putin and express their anger that Belarus is openly threatening to invade Romania, Poland and Moldova.

Putin will respond something like, "Belarus is an independent country, I can't control what they do. Meanwhile I notice that England has been threatening to try to overthrow me. Maybe I speak to Belarus and ask them to tone things down slightly, you will do the same with England?

I think the entire world is now waking up to the fact that there was a Neo Nazi statelet/enclave in Ukraine this entire time and was being actively protected by NATO members like the US and Germany.

Anlsvrthng said:

That Lukasenko presentation about the activity was very interesting.

On the map the many details , and the USA 1st Cavalry Division insignia .

Poland and the baltics had many details, but Slo/Hun/Ro haven't got any.


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I think it is a polite notification / warning.

Now, if we check on the Google earth the 1000 km distance from Moscow

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Anything outside the circle needs 10 minutes of flight time to reach moscow.
And the countries detailed in lukasenko presentation the ones are within the circle.
Finland - neutral, without USA units, the three baltic state, and Poland.

I would be paranoid if I am polish .

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You do realize it goes both ways, right?

Phead128 said:

PRC benefited massively from this "legalistic BS" .... How else you think PRC got permanent membership? Through this "legalistic BS"

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Let's talk about the legal procedure.

First of all, PRC succeeded ROC of China's seat in UN is not merely because members in the UN suddenly changed their mind deciding to award the seat to PRC. Although voting in UN Assembly is a legal procedure that must be fullfilled, the fundamental legal argument that enabled that vote to be put forward and eventually passed in PRC's favour was the reality on the ground that PRC controls 99% of China.

By 1971, the majority of UN members have realized and acknowledged that reality. These members have also switched their bilaterala diplomatic relationship from ROC to PRC by the time. The UN assembly voting was to confirm these realities in accordance with the members diplomatic stance.

Ukraine and Belarus were UN members on day one. If we play the book of law, they are outside of USSR regarding succession of USSR. Russia represents the majority and populations of the rest of Soviet republics. It is that fact and reality let Russia succeed USSR.

If any UN member want to pass USSR's seat from Russia to someone else. They have to change the fact that Russia being the largest and most populated Soviet republic. That is something no vote can change. You can not vote "Putin is not Putin". Therefor the idea is legally and practically impossible.