Ukrainian War Developments

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I thought the same way too until I learned that Russia had been fighting a proxy war in Ukraine for 8 years since 2014 Euromaidan coup as a way to have a veto over Ukraine foreign policy orientation, but proxy war and diplomacy failed fo shake Ukraine resolve to EU/NATO, so he felt forced to go bigger, and maybe pandemic is a good time to do it.

So perhaps Putin thinks a failed state in Ukraine is worth it, otherwise a prosperous democratic EU-aligned Ukraine could spread similar Euromaidan revolutions in Russia. Putin likely thought of his own future and needed to make a Ukraine a fail state to protect his own future.
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I'm not buying the Putin is afraid of Ukrainian democracy narrative. I don't know many Russians, but from what I've seen Russia, like China, has an imperial mindset. China conceives itself as an essential great power and does not see non-great powers as worthy models. Chinese government is not afraid of Taiwanese democracy or its GDP per capita. Not at all. Taiwan is basically a meme island. China is more likely to look to India than to Taiwan. The same probably goes for Russia.
 
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"Anonymous hackers, take care of restoring your site. It looks very pathetic against the background of your threats to our country."

A video is being distributed on social networks, presumably from the Russian hacker group Killnet. In her appeal to the citizens of Russia and the CIS, she urges not to give in to fakes and remain calm: "All this information bomb carries only text and no more harm."

Killnet has already put down the Anonymous website, which announced the start of a cyber war with the Russian government and the website of the Right Sector, banned in Russia. Hackers from the Xaknet Team also joined them and took down the website of the President of Ukraine.
 
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Abominable said:
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This map looks like a reasonable option.

Split the country into two divided by the red line, India - Pakistan style. Ethnic groups on either side can freely choose to migrate to either side. Both regions respect and allow the use of either language.

The right half becomes a region of Russia, the left half becomes a demilitarised non aligned independent state.

It may be a good idea to hold a plebiscite in the purple region to stop that becoming a future Kashmir problem with Hungary.
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Too greedy. Won't be accepted. But yeah, partitioning is the least painful option for Ukraine now. And Russia.
 
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panzerfeist1 said:
here is a guide I made for you
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I notice you removed the 'armchair generals moron' bit. You left in calling people shills because they espouse different POVs. Resorting to those tactics will not convince anyone. On the contrary, you're going to be dismissed.

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-how much Russian military personnel was used and against what number of Ukrainian military and militia as in citizens being armed? Were there any russian special forces used and how much? how many are greenhorns or cannon fodder from each side?
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Let's start there.

The Russians massed around 160 to 200k troops before the fighting started. Why would they not move them all in asap? Even if you are not going full out Stalin's organs on anything that moves, why wait to commit the entirety of your force as fast as possible?
 
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Just wondering, is this coming from above?
 
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anzha said:
I notice you removed the 'armchair generals moron' bit. You left in calling people shills because they espouse different POVs. Resorting to those tactics will not convince anyone. On the contrary, you're going to be dismissed.
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No I respect opinions that have value if they are being compared to standards that were previously made for fair criticism, watching and talking about twitter or reddit posts to generalize your opinions don't really help that
anzha said:
Let's start there.

The Russians massed around 160 to 200k troops before the fighting started. Why would they not move them all in asap? Even if you are not going full out Stalin's organs on anything that moves, why wait to commit the entirety of your force as fast as possible?
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Are these Ukrainian sources or ghost of kyiv? some reports have said that they have only wenk with 50-60k, got more, than sent some troops back? warfare to reduce casualties shouldnt be compared if they are not using thermobaric weapons.
 
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