Ukrainian War Developments

Even small Luxembourg is sending weapons

Abominable said:

LOL, Putin straight up clowning the west.

Russia blames Liz Truss and others for nuclear alert​

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The US keeps telling Putin to stop talking about about nukes, and Putin goes; "Nope, and and if they do go off it's because of the UK".

America has made many mistakes, but one of the stupidest is outsourcing their foreign policy to smaller countries. One moment you have the French president talking to Putin, then the next. All of these countries have different motivations, and some of them seem to be very happy dragging NATO into a war. Some of them hate Russians for ethnic or historical reasons rather than because of anything they're doing today. All of them lack cold war diplomacy, and seem to believe that Russia is like Iran or Syria.

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@Abominable Well She keep on insisting that Voronezh and Rostov are part of Ukraine, who will not be pique...lol

This conflict reminded me how lucky China is to have its own Internet Ecosystem . Today West is beating Russia in information warfare and are successfully provoking Russians to come on the streets to protest against Putin. Russia had to threaten and ultimately block fb, twitter so as to stop this propaganda onslaught.

China will be immune to this and can perfectly focus on Military ops without worrying about Domestic security concerns owing to Western Propaganda.

This is getting really embarrising for Putin. Lolz. So called 2nd best military in the world with 8k nukes and nobody take them seriously.

These things other than "denazificiation" seem workable - Ukraine neutrality probably means no EU and no NATO, giving up Crimea is probably going to be hard to swallow but maybe, given that Russia already holds it and has held it for a while, maybe ok.

I'm just not sure what denazification means - this is an overarching goal that needs specific details. Giving up the separatist regions? arresting Azov members or leaders? I think

And, just to say, it seems Ukrainians are amendable to maybe neutrality so far. So, we've got 1/3 and 3/3. Good diplomacy (and hard bargaining) would indicate we get 2/3 and everyone goes home unhappy. But... who knows what the western bloc would do to sabotage or add fuel to the fire?

Kaeshmiri said:

This conflict reminded me how lucky China is to have its own Internet Ecosystem . Today West is beating Russia in information warfare and are successfully provoking Russians to come on the streets to protest against Putin. Russia had to threaten and ultimately block fb, twitter so as to stop this propaganda onslaught.

China will be immune to this and can perfectly focus on Military ops without worrying about Domestic security concerns owing to Western Propaganda.

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It is not luck. Nothing in China happened by chance. As early as 2009 scholars in China foresaw the current trade/technological war.

Pretty soon there will be nothing to negotiate.

There is no reason for the Ukraine and the West to accept it.

I don't know why Putin even bothers send a delegation to talk with these recalcitrant people.
He is way too patient. I would have vaporized all the troops in the pocket who were shelling Donbass for last 7 years.
They are either Nazis or collaborators.

siegecrossbow said:

It is not luck. Nothing in China happened by chance. As early as 2009 scholars in China foresaw the current trade/technological war.

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How ironic. If I remember correctly, Putin once pulled Hu Jintao aside and said: "You have to do something about the NGO's in your country"