Ukrainian War Developments

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sequ

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Enough with propaganda nonsense. You are actively diluting this thread with some of your post.

BTW, Ukraine claimed to have downed 2 IL-76 but we've seen no evidence, yet Western sources claimed it was true. Yet we've seen pictures/videos of every downing so far--Ukrainian and Russian alike.

Warfare is filled with lots of dis-information and mis-information. Best to wait until events on the ground shows what's happening. If Turkish toy planes keep inflicting 1000 of casualties a day--I'm exaggerating here--then we will know that will be the case when Putin and Russian military are forced to retreat in defeat.

But five TB2 videos doesn't change the fact there are still many more Russian convoys on the move and pushing Ukraine back and taking territories.

TB2 footage is a fraction of what is out there. Don't dilute your arguments with strawman arguments.
 

ArmchairAnalyst

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Russia accepts EU membership but no NATO and disarmament, maybe.

EU has a mutual defense clause.
Might be enough for any Ukrainian national security concerns.

Still irrelevant though as this would be seen as a defeat for Russia (or rather Putin's ego) with too much at stake already.
 

gelgoog

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It is nice of them to give Russia more weapons supplies. Keep them coming.
If Finland tries to join NATO, they will be annexed back into the warm embrace of the Russian Empire.
It won't be like Stalin, who let them be independent after stationing there troops for 20 years.
 

Abominable

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LOL, Putin straight up clowning the west.

Russia blames Liz Truss and others for nuclear alert​

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The US keeps telling Putin to stop talking about about nukes, and Putin goes; "Nope, and and if they do go off it's because of the UK".

America has made many mistakes, but one of the stupidest is outsourcing their foreign policy to smaller countries. One moment you have the French president talking to Putin, then the next. All of these countries have different motivations, and some of them seem to be very happy dragging NATO into a war. Some of them hate Russians for ethnic or historical reasons rather than because of anything they're doing today. All of them lack cold war diplomacy, and seem to believe that Russia is like Iran or Syria.
 

grulle

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guys I keep seeing posts of russian convoys being destroyed. how is the huge convoy north of kiev doing?
 

Abominable

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Russia will not accept Ukraine's entry in the EU. Not anymore.
That ship has sailed.
Ukraine joining the EU would be a deal breaker? Even if they agreed to be demilitaried, no NATO and agree to Russian safeguards at nuclear sites? And agreeing to Russia getting the Crimea and Donbass?

I think that would be a good deal for Putin, especially given that going into this the west weren't even prepared to take NATO membership off the table.
 

siegecrossbow

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LOL, Putin straight up clowning the west.

Russia blames Liz Truss and others for nuclear alert​

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The US keeps telling Putin to stop talking about about nukes, and Putin goes; "Nope, and and if they do go off it's because of the UK".

America has made many mistakes, but one of the stupidest is outsourcing their foreign policy to smaller countries. One moment you have the French president talking to Putin, then the next. All of these countries have different motivations, and some of them seem to be very happy dragging NATO into a war. Some of them hate Russians for ethnic or historical reasons rather than because of anything they're doing today. All of them lack cold war diplomacy, and seem to believe that Russia is like Iran or Syria.

Classic wag the dog scenario.

This is why alliances are stupid.
 
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