Ukrainian War Developments

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FairAndUnbiased

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Mohsin77 said:
You're forgetting about water treatment plants, which were also included in your list, and are clearly listed as part of the critical infrastructure prohibited as a war crime.

And what you were actually advocating was the total destruction of the economy (which by the way, I already told you is stupid thing to focus on in a modern conflict because you can just directly destroy the military and it will have no chance to regenerate for decades). Destroying a country's economy will kill millions of civilians due to poverty and it serves no direct military purpose in the 21st century, other than American-style oppression.
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Sorry, I did not realize. OK, water treatment plants are off limits. They should not be targeted.

There's also no reason for millions to die to poverty. As for destruction of certain sectors of the economy, it is a military necessity (especially bridges, which you see here that Ukrainians are doing to themselves even). For civilian survival, food and water aid is typically provided (see Iraq 2003, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia).
 
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Aegis21 said:
You’re comparing 2 completely different situations though. The entirety of the west is putting is giving its support to Ukraine. Iraq never enjoyed any such assistance. Russia can’t act with impunity like the imperialists can.
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Russians already act with impunity by invading Ukraine.
 
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victoon said:
now what I said

not what I said

But PRC can't shut down this kind of talks on this forum. So whoever have made this kind of comments on this forum: F**K YOU TOO!

I have. I think a lack of basic standard on the internet is contributing the moral bankruptcy in the US. not my business. My business is to contribute to Chinese moral standard and supremacy.
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Good luck with that. As a frequenter of Chinese Internet forums (the few that exist) the level of debauchery is not much better than the likes of reddit. Only difference is that censorship takes care of the worst offenders.
 
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European Commission president says EU wants Ukraine to join bloc

ultimate carrots to the Ukrainians! fight the Russians till last man, last round!
 
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Mohsin77 said:
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and have clinical psychotic tendencies, for which you should seek professional help (along with Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney etc.)

You are literally advocating war crimes here. Attacking critical civilian infrastructure is a war crime.

@Deino @Bltizo mods, please note.

And by the way, this isn't the 1940s where you can build an fighter aircraft in a week and ship it off to the front lines. All you need to cripple a modern military is to destroy the existing military, in detail. If you do that, it would take half a century for them to rebuild it.
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Is preferable to keep the Taiwan stuff in its own thread, but i have to say that i don't know how much infrastructure the Chinese will let intact but will be a military mobilization that the world haven't see since ww2.
 
Aegis21

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anzha said:
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That seems to be backfiring. Then again, they could pull a Turkey on Ukraine when its all said and done.
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EU doesn’t give 2 fucks about Ukraine. They’re the same people who tried to slaughter Eastern Europeans during WW2. They’re just scared because the conflict is in their backyard and threatens their “civilized” way of life. They’ll create failed states in the third world because it doesn’t affect them but when it’s right next to them they’ll do anything to stop it.
 
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FairAndUnbiased said:
OK. Let me phrase again:

Power is key military infrastructure used to run military command centers, radars, etc. Civilians can survive with candles, water tablets and canned food. Power plants are minimally staffed. Disabling them does not harm civilian lives. Not war crime.

Oil is key military infrastructure used to fuel military vehicles. Civilians can walk or ride bikes. Oil refineries are minimally staffed. Disabling them does not harm civilian lives. Not war crime.

Bridges are key military infrastructure for transporting ground force vehicles and logistics train. Civilians can climb mountains or swim. Bridges do not have staff. Disabling them does not harm civilian lives. Not war crime.

Semiconductor fabs are key military infrastructure for building chips for electronics used in military vehicles and research. Note that this is a US definition that they used to put SMIC on the entity list as a "military end user". They are minimally staffed at night and are highly automated. Civilians don't need smartphones to live, nobody said smartphones are a human right. Not war crime.

Hmm it seems like all my proposed targets are legal. They aren't pure civil infrastructure, they're actually military infrastructure with some certain civilian uses.
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He has a point. The first thing U.S did in Iraq was to turn off the lights.
 
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