Ukrainian War Developments

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Arnies

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It is inevitable China will get dragged into the conflict, one way or the other just by the mere fact that the gringos can't shut the fuck up.

These people are even more lazy with their excuse than the Bush administration back in 2003 and Iraq's WMD

Putting Aside all political opinions and politics.. But mann was that reporter cringeworthy.. One thing we can all agree on is that we are all allergic to bad behaviour, lack of mannerism and just rotten atitude and It was really hard for me to sit thru this video.. That guy defines a jerk and extremely punchable creature... My tolerance is low for stuff like that and you could see that American diplomat was trying really hard to contain himself and he has been brought to the edge of eruption in an unwarranted briefing..

Take all politics out of the picture for a second that reporter was cancerous my gosh... Don't they have security or something like that because you gotta take action in these situations..

Garbage like this won't fly in china and i can get behind that
 
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Russian media analysis of the crisis:

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Janes has a ton of links. I'll just link a couple. Russians moved more units to Crimea:

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Jane's analysis of the units and the build up:

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The Russian buildup is at sea as well as ashore:

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I think this Xi-Putin meeting is going to be crucial.

IMO China will support Russia for its demands on NATO/Security order, but it won't (openly) support Russia in attacking Ukraine

Let's see what will happen. Its going to be interesting
 

plawolf

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It is inevitable China will get dragged into the conflict, one way or the other just by the mere fact that the gringos can't shut the fuck up.

These people are even more lazy with their excuse than the Bush administration back in 2003 and Iraq's WMD

Trust me bro, brought to you by the makers of previous smash hits like Iraqi WMD and Kabul will not fall and Uighur genocide. What more could you need?
 

solarz

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Putting Aside all political opinions and politics.. But mann was that reporter cringeworthy.. One thing we can all agree on is that we are all allergic to bad behaviour, lack of mannerism and just rotten atitude and It was really hard for me to sit thru this video.. That guy defines a jerk and extremely punchable creature... My tolerance is low for stuff like that and you could see that American diplomat was trying really hard to contain himself and he has been brought to the edge of eruption in an unwarranted briefing..

Take all politics out of the picture for a second that reporter was cancerous my gosh... Don't they have security or something like that because you gotta take action in these situations..

Garbage like this won't fly in china and i can get behind that

I don't think so, the guy was bullshitting and the reporter was calling him out on it.

Chinese politicians take hard questions like this all the time, the difference is, they don't bullshit.
 

Overbom

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IMO China will support Russia for its demands on NATO/Security order, but it won't (openly) support Russia in attacking Ukraine
We should also not forget that this would send an indirect signal to Asia-Pacific (maybe even Central Asian) countries on how China views such matters


For example, if China is seen to support a military attack against Ukraine, countries in ASEAN would surely be alarmed and start thinking "if China doesn't have a problem with that happening in Europe, who knows if China will do something here?"

On the other hand, by supporting Russia for its security demands but not supporting military option, the countries would feel like even on serious diplomatic issues, China doesn't support invasions. Surely such a thing would be a relief for countries which have an (irrational) fear of China.


That's why I am saying these things are extremely complex. You have to take into account hundreds of variables and side-effects when you take such monumental decisions. I don't envy the jobs of diplomats and decision makers. Sounds like a job which is mentally exhausting
 

Arnies

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I don't think so, the guy was bullshitting and the reporter was calling him out on it.

Chinese politicians take hard questions like this all the time, the difference is, they don't bullshit.
I know the diplomat was bullshitting but the grilling imho crossed the line in a professional setting It was over the top.. It was unprofessional conduct and notice I agree with the reporter but his conduct was horrible bro..

Respect has to be preserved regardless of different political ideologies
 
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clockwork

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But west sees Russians as the Asiatic Horde, not as fellow whites.
Nah. A few people may have seen it that way, like Patton, especially when that view was trending during the early 20th century, but now the rhetoric especially from the right wing is to unite with Russia to counter the Asiatic hordes.

Make no mistake: Russia may be seen as the least white among the whites in the west, but it is still incontrovertiblely
seen as white. The Orthodox Christian aspect is even more important to many, e.g. American conservatives and that German admiral.
 
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