Ukrainian War Developments

Kich said:

What is source for this?

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Troops on the ground who have recaptured the city; it was lightly defended.

meckhardt98 said:

Troops on the ground who have recaptured the city; it was lightly defended.

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Err Where's your source? Report?

Dogfight still ongoing over Kiev. One plane shot down.

gelgoog said:

I read that cooky shit of an article by Karaganov too @j17wang. I did not bother posting it here but I did post a link to a book which has not much different ideas. Even more radical. It was published a year before Putin came to power and was published around the time of the NATO intervention in Serbia. These guys, I think, are dangerous ideologues. Thus far those guys have always been in the background and kind of treated as pets and mostly ignored by the Russian government. The fact they are pushing this article out just shows how pissed off the Russians are.

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I was wondering what are your objections to the article? My understanding of what the author was trying to convey is for Russia to avoid or stop joining EU/American organizations since the very foundations of said organizations are to retain western hegemonic leadership often at the expense of the weaker countries who are members and to weaken Russia both internally and externally. Make the UN the primary vehicle as the avenue to sort out any thorny international relations issue in order to strengthen the organization that's been bypassed, weakened on purpose by the collective west (US/EU) for their own destructive purposes. Strengthen the relationship with China, and if need be established a 5 year formal defense alliance to ensure that China doesn't get bogged down or weaken even temporarily against the all encompassing attack by the collective west. But at the same time, created enough distance or reliant on China alone to avoid becoming a quasi-vassal country of the middle kingdom...

The rest of the author's argument were more philosophical i.e. the new political model that's neither democratic or authoritarian. Question of values, freedoms, preservation of "traditional values" against the excess of post-humanist approach with respect to feminism (ultra-feminism) LGBTQ, immigration issue etc...

After reading this very long article I didn't find anything on it that was alarming or objectionable, I found myself to be sympathetic on what he, a Russian person, desires for his country and impressed by the seriousness of his ideas.

Overbom said:

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496836765092569088

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I do wonder why no attempts in Odessa were made. Beside the contradictory information of less then reliable sources a few hours ago from “Ukrainian officials or the military.”

LCR34 said:

Err Where's your source? Report?

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meckhardt98 said:

Troops on the ground who have recaptured the city; it was lightly defended.

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Same thing happened in Iraq 2003. It does not mean anything. Russia is playing a giant game of whack-a-mole.
Russia does not have the troops to hold all the ground. So they just use speed and whack-whack-whack.

Bellum_Romanum said:

I was wondering what are your objections to the article?

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That article is creepy like hell. On the surface it looks ok. But if you parse it all and take it in it is pretty twisted.

It seems to come from the same school of thought as this guy.