Ukrainian War Developments

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OppositeDay

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I think you are wrong on this. Several politicians in Ukraine have said outrageous things that would be unthinkable in the west. The Azov battalion is also part of the Ukranian military.

What would people say if any European military today had a detachment that openly carried Nazi insignia and called for racial genocide? Would you just ignore it?

By integrating them into the official Ukranian establishment the current government should be held accountable for them.
And both China and India sought military assistance from Nazi Germany. Beggars can't be choosers.
 

gelgoog

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The only thing I am finding amusing is the Reddit arm chair generals being completely wrong and getting obliterated after circle jerking themselves for the last couple months.
I was wrong too. I thought there would have been no conflict and Ukraine would have fulfilled Minsk II.

But the Ukrainian leadership are dumb like a ton of bricks. Dummies. They thought Russia was bluffing. It is the US which is bluffing.
The MIC appreciates the new weapons sales they will make. And the European project has stumbled again.
This is a massive step backwards. The EU ran again to daddy US. The US creates the problems and then profits from the solutions. The US is the world's greatest nation of snake oil salesmen. Admirable really. I should know. :)

One thing I got right though was that in the case of conflict Russia would do a massive blitz. So far it seems to be happening.
The final showdown with the Ukraine government isn't over yet though.
 

Deino

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I'm not modifying anything. I stand by everything I've said. In fact, I've quoted your threat to @Webmaster.


Ok guys ... let's keep it simple! According to our rules, political posts are forbidden!

We as the moderators are well aware that this is sometimes difficult to handle, if not impossible, as such we had some long discussions to allow some "more political content" in the member's section. This however is a thread in the "World Armed Forces" section and as such related to news!

Again, we have different opinions and we must accept this in a forum, but spreading lies, twisting words in order to justify any offensive posts, advocating crimes and death is strictly against the rules. I issued already two warnings this morning.

As such, you can stick to the facts like - yes, there are Nazis in Ukraine and they have a severe issues - but otherwise stick to reporting the events. No further POLITICAL posts regardless pro or contra any side are allowed!



But let me add a personnel note: I'm neither pro US or EU, in fact I'm opposing the lack NATO's of understanding towards Russia's security concerns since a long time. In fact in other forums I'm much too often called the understander of Russian and China! But it is my strong believe, war is not the answer. Even more I never applauded what the US did in other countries, especially the ME but again, this is not a reason to advocate or justify this war!

As such Nazis are a mess - I know it quite well from my country's own and shameful history - and unfortunately other countries do have the same issues too. But any claim, the Ukrainian government is a Nazi regime and all their "outrages" would be comparable to Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden or any other terrorist's crimes is both inappropriate and unjustified here.
Consequently, calling me now a Nazi-supporter or a Nazi since I am opposing this war, is beyond any limits of freedom of speech and will be handled accordingly.


Therefore anyone who continues to celebrate and propagate this war as the welcome prelude to a supposedly justified World War 3 has lost any right here!
 
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Anlsvrthng

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I was wrong too. I thought there would have been no conflict and Ukraine would have fulfilled Minsk II.

But the Ukrainian leadership are dumb like a ton of bricks. Dummies. They thought Russia was bluffing. It is the US which is bluffing.
The MIC appreciates the new weapons sales they will make. And the European project has stumbled again.
This is a massive step backwards. The EU ran again to daddy US. The US creates the problems and then profits from the solutions. The US is the world's greatest nation of snake oil salesmen. Admirable really. I should know. :)

One thing I got right though was that in the case of conflict Russia would do a massive blitz. So far it seems to be happening.
The final showdown with the Ukraine government isn't over yet though.
It is bit complex, Russia can stop to sell gas and oil to anyone, and see how the lights turn off in Europe.

We are in a chaotic atractor, no one know what will happens next.

Doing the same thing again and again in Brussel will lead the same thing happens again and again on the Russian side.
 
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