Ukrainian War Developments
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The Northern Front, especially the one West of Kiev was a disaster.
I am not sure why you came to this conclusion that military budget is insufficient?. when each product they make is very unique and complex and than require joint tests. Its the engineering solutions that are complex that delays the product for high volume production. they are testing new radar on Naval version of chopper and than adopting to land version. it is not simply upgrade of chopper but increasing the combat radius. if they think range of choppers that already is capable of carrying external fuel tanks need to be further increased. than think about requirements behind UCAVs, AWACS, fighter , special mission aircraft ranges.
I had this mindset for a while too but recent revelations show that Russia did not use Kiev as feint but rather as an actual objective. I remember critcizing Russian special forces on this forum early on for rushing into Kiev suburbs only to run from their vehicles surprised when the Ukrainians fired on them. It really shows that Russia expected a blitzkireg where the Ukrainians would immediately drop their weapons when encountering special forces (ex: Gostomel). Also, apparently Russians left parade uniforms back in Kiev when they redeployed to Eastern Ukraine, so the 72 hours objective was certainly the original plan. Overall, the American intelligence had been pretty accurate at finding out about the Russian strategy in Ukraine so I wouldn’t doubt that infrormation. Without American intelligence assistance, I think the Russian offensive on Kiev would’ve been a lot more successful (they could’ve landed those 12 transports in Gostomel).
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The Mistral deal was not primarily about the Mistrals themselves, but rather about having France assist to modernise the shipyard to build them. Without the shipyard element, the deal would never have been signed in the first place.
China today can probably offer the same thing, though it would indeed require some psychological adjustment on Russia's part first.
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If I recall correctly, Zelensky encouraged Ukrainian civilians to make Molotov cocktails and use them against Russian armored vehicles.
But what would be the likely effectiveness / risk ratio?
"Are Molotov Cocktails effective vs Modern Tanks?"
"I started to dig and found a lot of superficial articles etc. my vehicle books were also far too general to answer this question.
So, I hired a researcher to write a report on the fire fighting systems of the T-72 & T-90 tanks and help me out with various
questions as well, since he looked into Soviet armored fighting vehicles quite extensively."
But what would be the likely effectiveness / risk ratio?
"Are Molotov Cocktails effective vs Modern Tanks?"
"I started to dig and found a lot of superficial articles etc. my vehicle books were also far too general to answer this question.
So, I hired a researcher to write a report on the fire fighting systems of the T-72 & T-90 tanks and help me out with various
questions as well, since he looked into Soviet armored fighting vehicles quite extensively."
The Russians will just continue to drive, or otherwise the thrower may have a choice between 7.62, 12.7, 14.5 and up to 30mm.
Thing is the Russians already have under construction at the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch, so that's not something they are unable to procure though. What China best provides to Russia are things that don't have a Russian counterpart to be supplied.
What you describe shows the incredible extent of hubris of the Russians. JUST. INCREDIBLE.
With regards to believing that the Ukrainians would capitulate as soon as the Russians showed up at suburbs of Kiev, I wonder if that was truly Putin's initial belief or he was convinced by others that it would be so, and also I wonder the extent of deliberations that took place with regards to that plan and who were the dissenting voices with regards to it.
The whole operation on the western side of the Dnieper River was undermanned, under-resourced, under-supplied, under-protected, over-rushed, and over ambitious. Even without the benefit of hindsight it boggles the mind as to how the Russians could have drank that cool aid. It shows the extent to which they had absolutely no respect for the Ukrainians.
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