Ukrainian War Developments

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james smith esq

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Last person declared God Emperor was deposed PDQ. Besides, Putin may not like being compared to Drumpf.



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james smith esq

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Trump, Fox, and their followers are funny. They would have resoundingly done nothing if Trump were in office. Just look at the poll, Republicans don't want the US involved.
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Such wishful thinking, Offering nothing but asking China to step up for them. Just Delusional.
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Oh, so Drumpf, finally, spoke on this?

Friggin’ idiot!!!
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Trump, Fox, and their followers are funny. They would have resoundingly done nothing if Trump were in office. Just look at the poll, Republicans don't want the US involved.
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Such wishful thinking, Offering nothing but asking China to step up for them. Just Delusional.
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The Guardian article's tone is to be expected since it's written by a Hanjian.
 

semiconprof

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The idea of Putin being an anti-western demagogue is largely a western created one. Putin was hand picked by Yeltsin, a very pro western leader. Putin's position changed over years of open anti-Russian policy from NATO, starting from Kosovo and Chechnya. Domestically his policies are western, or at least the eastern European form.

I'm pretty sure had the west been more reasonable, Putin would not have to be so hostile to the west and the Russo-Sino de facto alliance wouldn't be a thing. Putin, like most Russians, have much more affinity to the west than to anything Chinese. The US and its NATO vassals made a huge strategic blunder.
 

9dashline

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I'm pretty sure had the west been more reasonable, Putin would not have to be so hostile to the west and the Russo-Sino de facto alliance wouldn't be a thing. Putin, like most Russians, have much more affinity to the west than to anything Chinese. The US and its NATO vassals made a huge strategic blunder.
Hilter shouldnt have gotten too greedy and backstabbed Russia... American Empire is the 21st century Nazis
 

semiconprof

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Actually, Putin tried his best to be a “western” lapdog, as well. It was only his obsession with reanimating the USSR and his growing need to play Super Power leader that has caused this current crisis. All the more reason that gas supplies to Europe were a priority and those to China an afterthought.

I didn’t mean to suggest that Russia might become an enemy to China, post-Putin, only unreliable as an ally.
I agree with your observation although I won't go as far as describing Putin trying to be a good lapdog. In the beginning he saw Russia's future probably best served with close cooperation with the west. But he also wanted an assertive, independent Russia. Obviously this is too much for the west. The US led west, Russia and China are the proverbial Three Kindoms. Any alliances formed between any two are because of the necessity to counter the third one. Needless to say, such alliance will not be stable nor reliable.
 
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