They have air superiority and air dominance, but they do not have air control.
Ukrainian War Developments
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I agree, actually. It's just surprising.
This will be great for morale: don't underestimate that, actually. That is a win for the Ukrainians.
If this becomes a common action, then it will be a big deal. Unless, the Russians have overcentralized and don't have backup facilities. I doubt that, but I've been wildly wrong on the actual logistics and performance of the Russian Armed Forces so far.
They'll probably make a movie out of it mark my words
Oh gawd. I can see it now. Tom Cruise as Maverick who hops in a chopper to should the Ukrainians how its done along with his renegade Ukrainian AF buddy. This allows the Ukrainians to go on to win. I'm...gonna be sick now. Hollywood? if you're listening, you know this guy a fsck ton of money and a very large toilet for me to vomit in.
Well played, @lapain . Well, played.
Wikipedia says they only have 15 AWACs. Take into account maintenance issues and that they have to cover the entire country and to guard against US/NATO shenanigans, and you soon realise that AWACs are a very limited resource for Russia.
All the bad past procurement decisions are now coming back to bite them
Russia sure has had some mishaps, but unpopular opinion here, this one event is not really incompetence. It happens when war is fought in large areas between evenly matched adversaries. The F-117 shot down over Serbia might have been incompetence, I think not, it's what happens when the other side mobilizes some ressources, some know how and some guts.
You have two of the most stubborn cultures I've encountered in my life at actual war with each other. Yes, JB. Yes. This is the only way it will play out.
Off topic for this thread, but the F-117 shoot down was absolutely incompetence. The aircraft used the same flight path EVERY night. That's a failure on the case of mission planners. That was a failure on the case of the pilot. Hubris might have been what fed that incompetence, but was it was incompetence all the same.
Another one. I think this is the best one. it is clear that a helicopter was involved
I dont know why its strategic. when satellites can see where the airdefense systems located and they planned for gaps inside.
The fact that could not use missile or MLRS but need to send choppers for oil storage show more desperation.
Well more than just some mishaps... Especially in the North... I do not know whether Russia has finally readjusted to the realities of those mishaps at the onset of the war - especially the lack of caution and assuming the the Ukrainians were an absolute push over and thinking they'd actually just surrender if the Russians showed up.
Russia had better get much nastier, while retaining caution in the East. They are still fighting a limited style war there against the largest and well armed concentration of the enemy's forces instead of bringing the full effect of their combined arms conventional fire power to bear.
Russia had better get much nastier, while retaining caution in the East. They are still fighting a limited style war there against the largest and well armed concentration of the enemy's forces instead of bringing the full effect of their combined arms conventional fire power to bear.
A possibility that the tank was knocked out? This is my assumption from seeing the fire came out of the lower turret section
Pretty sure F-117 shot down was purely because of luck and "coincidences"
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