Ukrainian War Developments

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lapain

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i dont see helicopter. maybe a rocket fire. when so much area open for population movement. seems Russia wants population addup.

Ukraine pulling a Houthi out of itself at last.
First Ukraine propaganda success that amounts to something in real life.
Slightly embarassing for Russia but as embarassing as Bodenplatte was for the Allies...

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anzha

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From another angle

That sure as shbt looks like rockets fired from something airborne. Considering the platform didn't seem to move much between shots would imply it was hovering. Given Ukraine lacks VTOL UAVs, I think I believe the UAF just pulled off a raid across the border into Russia, into Belgorod.

Pure emotional reaction incoming:

Belgorod isn't far from the border, but...

IDK whether to crack up laughing out of pure madness or scream WTF!

What the actual fsck!

If those pilots made it back alive, holy shbt.

How do you say 'Doolittle Raid' in Ukrainian?!

Emotion over.

Well, almost over: I'm back to mocking the VKS. sorry. Can't help it.
 

lapain

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That sure as shbt looks like rockets fired from something airborne. Considering the platform didn't seem to move much between shots would imply it was hovering. Given Ukraine lacks VTOL UAVs, I think I believe the UAF just pulled off a raid across the border into Russia, into Belgorod.

Pure emotional reaction incoming:

Belgorod isn't far from the border, but...

IDK whether to crack up laughing out of pure madness or scream WTF!

What the actual fsck!

If those pilots made it back alive, holy shbt.

How do you say 'Doolittle Raid' in Ukrainian?!

Emotion over.

Well, almost over: I'm back to mocking the VKS. sorry. Can't help it.

Should the VKS be blamed on that? I don't get it
 

Overbom

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That sure as shbt looks like rockets fired from something airborne. Considering the platform didn't seem to move much between shots would imply it was hovering. Given Ukraine lacks VTOL UAVs, I think I believe the UAF just pulled off a raid across the border into Russia, into Belgorod.

Pure emotional reaction incoming:

Belgorod isn't far from the border, but...

IDK whether to crack up laughing out of pure madness or scream WTF!

What the actual fsck!

If those pilots made it back alive, holy shbt.

How do you say 'Doolittle Raid' in Ukrainian?!

Emotion over.

Well, almost over: I'm back to mocking the VKS. sorry. Can't help it.
They were definetely flying extremely low to avoid detection from Russian air defences.

As for Russia, incompetence kills
 

enroger

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That definitely looks like rocket salvos fired from a helicopter. Those pilots must have flown extremely low to avoid being detected by radar, but how the hell did they get past infrared aa?

Regardless, thats extremely impressive.

Either they weren't deployed or the crew is slacking.... either way no excuse for the Russians, they keep making assumptions on their enemy and paying for it. Valiant effort from Ukr pilots
 

anzha

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They were definetely flying extremely low to avoid detection from Russian air defences.

I am sure they did. Even so, the VKS should have intercepted it if they had been paying attention. I don't think they were. In fact, I think you said it best:

As for Russia, incompetence kills

clearly. holy shbt.

Emotional response over: this is a small victory for Ukraine. it's not big at all in the grand scheme of things, but...daaaaaaaaamn.
 

Jingle Bells

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Well, the Ukrainians consider themselves as Russians about the same as the Chinese consider themselves Japanese. In other words, the Ukrainians won't give up any more than the Chinese were willing to accept "co-prosperity" 80 years ago. Now, consider that.
Fine, that means we will just going to have to let them fight each other until one side come out victorious.

I personally thought that they are much similar to each other than Chinese are to Japanese. They do have the same religion and their language is much similar to each other than Chinese is to Japanese. But I guess it has less to do with similarities and differences and much more to do with self-identification.

I just thought that they should have a mechanism to de-escalate conflict. What happened 80 years ago to China and Japan is not normal, because China was both having internal strife and was hardly a true unified and function country (by today's standard, China was a Somalia-like fail state for decades). And China was an unindustrialized agricultural country with not arms industry, while Japan was an rising Asian new military industrial power. That imbalance of strength vs resources-under-title basically deprived the two from ever having a working method of de-escalation in the first half of 20th century.

But as soon as China got rid of its own internal problem of unification (administrative and bureaucratic structure) at 1949, and develop a decent enough Arms industry for self-defense a couple of decades after 1949, China and Japan were able to re-establish a working foreign relation, as well as mechanism for de-escalation, in the face of on-going territorial dispute between the two.

But Ukraine and Russia seems to have no such working mechanism.
 

lapain

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They were definetely flying extremely low to avoid detection from Russian air defences.

As for Russia, incompetence kills

The Ukies seized the moment, impressively indeed, with what's left of their airforce that's all.
The Su-24 downed yesterday might have tried the same to no avail.
And Houthis do this regularly, against US and RSAF defenses.
This will probably be a one trick pony but still, slow clap...
 
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