Ukrainian War Developments

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SampanViking

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Sharing a few thoughts on the events of the last 24 hours. I will not be making a habit of these daily or near daily uploads, it is because I am about to go on holiday for a week and will literally be off grid. Talk about timing!
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Exactly this. Anyone on here who thinks China and Russia are bezzie mates at the bar 4 eva needs their 'kin head examined, and also needs to read some history. It suits both countries for now to be friendly - but circumstances will inevitably change in time. By the end of the Cold War the USSR had more divisions deployed against PRC than against NATO.
Let's examine my head then. Since you're invoking history, why don't we talk about that time America fought a war to expel the English king and England retaliated by burning the White House? Where's that fit in?

How long is "for now"? Because I see "for now" lasting as long as the West exists. How long a time would it take for circumstances to inevitably change?

Finally, how many divisions does Russia have deployed against China today vs. NATO?
 

Sardaukar20

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This trope again... *sigh*

What's up with people thinking that China will smh invade Siberia? Do you not understand the nature of Russian-Chinese relations?


Please, let's stop with that "China will invade Siberia" cliche. That's only happening in Westerners wet dreams and has no resemblance of reality
Exactly. China has no interest in Siberia. China is not even interested in conquering any of the resource-rich Central Asian countries, let alone any core Russian territory. This is a Tom Clancy wet dream fantasy. The same Tom Clancy who wrote about a Soviet SSBN defecting to the US, or a modern-day Japanese backstab war on the US.

The ones who truly desired Siberia is the West. They ultimately desired a Russia that is both colonized and broken up. Again this is them projecting themselves onto China. Its like a house robber assuming that everyone in the neighbourhood has the same desire to rob the biggest house there.
 

solarz

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Let's examine my head then. Since you're invoking history, why don't we talk about that time America fought a war to expel the English king and England retaliated by burning the White House? Where's that fit in?

How long is "for now"? Because I see "for now" lasting as long as the West exists. How long a time would it take for circumstances to inevitably change?

Finally, how many divisions does Russia have deployed against China today vs. NATO?

For the foreseeable future, China needs Russian cooperation for the BRI and Russia needs China as an economic lifeline.

So long as China's sea trade routes remain vulnerable to interdiction, BRI will always be of paramount importance.
 

gelgoog

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There's more escalation to come inherent in what Putin did. The territories claimed by the DPR and LPR extend past what they currently control, so at any time Russia could open fire on the Ukrainian military to expel them from those claimed territories.
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ZeEa5KPul

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Then I don't see what the play is here, Putin cut off his own avenues for escalation and sacrificed the possibility of inserting those regions into the Ukrainian state as a Trojan horse. He could have just signed a piece of paper without putting 190,000 soldiers on the border. Either he's going to go with "Ukies keep shelling" to escalate or the Westoid analysts are right that he's lost his nerve and is looking for an exit. If it turns out to be the latter, then this has been a pretty pathetic showing.

By the way, how long can this deployment at the border remain in its present state of readiness?
 
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