You are only considering the evacuation angle. Have you considered they might be bringing stuff in?
*tinfoil hat on* Like possible suicidal false flags on chem weapon attack?
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*tinfoil hat on* Like possible suicidal false flags on chem weapon attack?
Taking care of civilians is what's supposed to happen!!!
Kudos to the Russians!
No, this one.
The rob lee video shows the su30 that crashed after stalling at low altitude. It wasnt shot down. The aircraft hited the ground with no foward motion. It fell flat. There is a video of the su30 stalling after doing some very agresive maneuvers and popping flares. A pitty.
Yeah, my initial thought was no way Ukr forces want to fight in the open, recent signs of counter attack by the Ukrainians gave me this line of thoughts
NATO intel support also complicate things, as they'd be able to spot possible ambush and advise Ukr to stay put
Please don't equate 'Nazi' with 'German' and don't equate 'German' with 'Axis'.
Forces from several countries, not only Germany, fought on the Axis side in the Ukraine.
Romania, Italy, and Hungary sent armies. Slovakia and Croatia sent smaller forces.
And that does not include Waffen-SS units recruited from volunteers in many countries.
According to Franz Halder, Operation Barbarossa in 1941 employed about 15,000 Polish troops in support roles.
Odessa was captured primarily by the Romanian, not German, forces.
The Romanians were chiefly responsible for a massacre of Odessa's Jews.
Moreover, significant Ukrainian forces fought against the USSR.
In 1944, Ukrainian partisans killed Nikolai Vatutin, who was one of the best Soviet generals.
Turns out that they moved out a bit, got hit by artillery, and ran back. There's no threat to the Russian positions in Kherson.
This is the video I was talking about. That Su30 stalled after pulling some serious G. Low energy and no altitude to recovery from extreme angles of attack.... I hope the captured pilot is still alive and well. RIP to the other crew mate/comrade.
If you believe the revolution of 2014 was illegal, then so were all subsequent elections. They occurred in the aftermath of a neo-nazi revolution where political opponents were arrested and tortured, opposition parties banned and dissenting pro-Russian opinion censored.
You could make a case for Russia's annexation of Crimea to be illegal. They should have taken Kiev in 2014 and restored the original government. It's good that they are rectifying that error now.
Wasn't that what you were saying about Russia and Putin?
Ok, no more discussion about the political aspects of this from me. This is a military forum.
I doubt the Americans would let the Ukrainians use chemical weapons in this war. If they knew the Ukrainians were planning something on their own, they'd likely inform the Russians beforehand to as a sign of good faith that they weren't involved.
We can't assume anything in this war. This could already be "surrender to the Ukrainian forces and agree to play PR for the Ukranians in exchange for not getting shot"
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