Ukrainian War Developments
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Quite an assumption. For the record, I hate suffering anywhere, even though i'm "white".
People are people, stop trying to create division.
@Strangelove Josep Borrel there is no downside for being stupid after all you don't have to subject yourself to judgement since your position is unelected one. The EU is a dictatorship masquerading as a Democracy, the officials are not elected BUT selected by the oligarchy elite of Europe.
Of that we're in agreement
Ignorant insults noted.
"You blame many here for lapping up so called “Russian propaganda” while not acknowledging that you may have lapped up
too much “western propaganda”?"
If you had bothered to read enough of my earlier posts, you might have noticed that I have been consistently critical of the
Western media for presenting a very biased, hypocritical, or dishonest framing of the events before and during this war.
I am far from being the regurgitator of Western propaganda that you fantasize that I am.
You seem to act as if the only choice is between swallowing Russian propaganda whole or Western propaganda whole.
On the contrary, I can choose what I consume and digest and spit out what I find inedible.
I am aware of the censorship of pro-Russian views from mainstream Western media, but I am unaware that it has extended
to platforms such as YouTube, Twitter, etc. For instance, I can read Sergey Karjakin (a Russian chess player born in Crimea)
on Twitter, where he absolutely supports Putin and Russia's war on Ukraine. Indeed, Karjakin has written that he always
would--without thinking (his words)--instantly support every war by his country and every decision made by his leader (Putin).
For expressing such opinions, Karjakin has been banned for six months from international chess.
I strongly disagree with what Karjakin said, but I support his right to say it, and I oppose banning him from chess.
Blame game game has started
"Zelensky: Impossible to save Mariupol without additional tanks, planes.
“Ukraine cannot shoot down Russian missiles with shotguns and machine guns,” the president said during his latest address"
"Zelensky: Impossible to save Mariupol without additional tanks, planes.
“Ukraine cannot shoot down Russian missiles with shotguns and machine guns,” the president said during his latest address"
Oh boy, what a load of propagandist bullshit we have going on here. Buddy, not all of us here are brain dead, or gullible enough to buy your American nonsense. It's okay to believe your governments fairy tale but come on dude. We ain't stupid.
Learn how to read and stop putting words into my mouth!
"So now you're shifting your position from "Most Russian (sic) does not support the war"...
I never wrote that or believed that. Can you quote where you fantasize that I wrote that?
Your 'reading comprehension' is abysmal if you believe that I wrote or implied that.
Those are words that you put into my mouth.
I always have believed (as I made clear enough in multiple posts) that only a brave small minority support the anti-war
movement in Russia for various reasons, including nationalism, state control of information, and penalties for criticism.
It's Natasha's belief (which I quoted) that many Russians are brainwashed by propaganda.
I have not met her Russian acquaintances, so I have no basis to confirm or dispute her belief.
It's a waste of time to keep arguing with someone who's so arrogant (note his conceit of 'intellectual superiority)
and so stupid that he utterly fails to comprehend the basic meaning of my statements.
Ukraine's old Soviet air defenses are better than any shit the US Army has. Tough luck Zelensky. You had the best ground based air defenses in the whole of NATO and still lost.
Another failure of reading comprehension.
"According to you , Russian people don't want war."
I never wrote that. If that's supposed to mean that I believe that ALL Russians oppose the war, that's absurd.
Again, I believe that only a small minority of Russians now oppose the war, at least actively, because it's illegal to do so.
I cannot say if most Russians *wanted* the war (Putin never asked them), but most Russians are willing to go along with it.
"You are a supposed democracy."
What a fatuous comment! Who's 'you'? I am not a country or a government.
Another failure of reading comprehension.
"According to you , Russian people don't want war."
I never wrote that. If that's supposed to mean that I believe that ALL Russians oppose the war, that's absurd.
Again, I believe that only a small minority of Russians now oppose the war, at least actively, because it's illegal to do so.
I cannot say if most Russians *wanted* the war (Putin never asked them), but most Russians are willing to go along with it.
"You are a supposed democracy."
What a ridiculous comment! Who's 'you'? I am not a country or a government.
You seem eager to make an ad hominem attack against my supposed nationality, but you have no clue what it is.
How do you know that I am not already a queen?
The rest of Nobaru's post is essentially gibberish.
Here's some serious advice:
Enroll in a basic course in English reading and writing.
Your English as well as your 'reasoning' ability is far beneath a well-educated person's in an Anglophone society.
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