Ukrainian War Developments

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Abominable

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500 stingers and javelins a day...

That's before other countries send in their missiles too. I think there's about 5 videos of Ukrainians actually using javelins throughout this entire war, I think one video of a stinger actually hitting a helicopter. Javelins still cost $150,000 a pop right?

It confirms my suspicion that the Ukrainians are just selling them straight on to the Russians, or stashing them away to sell on the black market for after the war. This is so corrupt it makes the Afghan government seem honest.

Yep, keep sending them in Americans. :D
 

4Runner

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There is a sure way of US+EU getting China's guarantee of not aiding Russia in this current conflict. All they need to do is to issue a joint communique with following items:

(1) We recognize that Taiwan is part of the sovereignty of the People's Republic of China.
(2) All things concerning Taiwan are internal affairs of PRC.
(3) We respect sovereignty and territorial integrity of PRC.

See, no-color people, all you need to do is to do the same as what you are asking China to do. Then, we can happily live ever after.
 

Phead128

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4D chess is winning without firing a shot (e.g.
Sponsored coup d'etat, puppets via color revolution, psychological operations (psyops), salami-slicing via alliance expansion)

Putin did clever 4D chess moves to soft influence and counter psyops in Ukraine, splitting/annexing Crimea with referendum vote, instigating 8-year proxy wars in DNR/LNR using identity politics, or even declaring DNR/LNR as independent states and sending peacekeepers.

But I have to say, if Russia is forced to resort to slogfest and siege cities like 13th century warfare, then tactically speaking, it's a 1D checkers. Razing cities to rubbles/ashes is the least preferred option.
 

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500 stingers and javelins a day...

That's before other countries send in their missiles too. I think there's about 5 videos of Ukrainians actually using javelins throughout this entire war, I think one video of a stinger actually hitting a helicopter. Javelins still cost $150,000 a pop right?

It confirms my suspicion that the Ukrainians are just selling them straight on to the Russians, or stashing them away to sell on the black market for after the war. This is so corrupt it makes the Afghan government seem honest.

Yep, keep sending them in Americans. :D
More weapons to capture for Russia, which will be used to supply the rebel province for defense against the Nazis.
 

RottenPanzer

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500 stingers and javelins a day...

That's before other countries send in their missiles too. I think there's about 5 videos of Ukrainians actually using javelins throughout this entire war, I think one video of a stinger actually hitting a helicopter. Javelins still cost $150,000 a pop right?

It confirms my suspicion that the Ukrainians are just selling them straight on to the Russians, or stashing them away to sell on the black market for after the war. This is so corrupt it makes the Afghan government seem honest.

Yep, keep sending them in Americans. :D
They really want Russia to develop their own top-attack missile huh?
 

manqiangrexue

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There is a sure way of US+EU getting China's guarantee of not aiding Russia in this current conflict. All they need to do is to issue a joint communique with following items:

(1) We recognize that Taiwan is part of the sovereignty of the People's Republic of China.
(2) All things concerning Taiwan are internal affairs of PRC.
(3) We respect sovereignty and territorial integrity of PRC.

See, no-color people, all you need to do is to do the same as what you are asking China to do. Then, we can happily live ever after.
You'd sell out our brotherhood with Russia for this crap? They already supposedly accept this as the One China Policy or they wouldn't even be able to have relations with China. NATO's promise is worth less than used toilet paper. Today, they agree to your terms; China breaks its relationship with Russia and Russia suffers. 3 years later, they reneg; after all, they are all democracies with newly elected leaders every 2-4 years. Nobody needs accept what the last man said. But you think Russia will forget your betrayal? Accept no words from NATO countries, only solid payment. Make no deals with these devils except with the intent to deceive and out-devil them; China+Russia must stand together like a steel mountain and push NATO back with every ounce of force from every last man. That's the only way forward.
 
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