Ukrainian War Developments

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gelgoog

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Rogozin (ROSCOSMOS head) is threatening to do something if he doesn't get some sort of response from the other nations using the ISS. This is related to the sanctions on Russia for the Russo-Ukrainian War.
The Russians had a plan to detach their modules to make their own station at one point. I doubt they would do it in the current environment. It no longer makes sense to use the old modules used in the ISS. Any new space station would likely use a new architecture.
But a lot of people fail to realize that the Russian segment is mostly made of self-contained modules with their own power supply for example. The Russian modules would be way more likely to work alone than the rest of the station. And the ISS has long passed its original design lifetime anyway. It costs a huge amount of money to maintain it and keep it up. At this point it would be cheaper to let it de-orbit and make a new one.
 

anzha

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The Russians had a plan to detach their modules to make their own station at one point. I doubt they would do it in the current environment. It no longer makes sense to use the old modules used in the ISS. Any new space station would likely use a new architecture.

Rogozin mentions ROSS in the new light of the new world:

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fwiw, NASA doesn't believe the current segments can be separated and function:

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FairAndUnbiased

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Not that exact spot, man, C’mon!!! We’ve all got Google maps (terrain feature)! But installations in each country centered on that area. And, what, it’s beyond China’s and Russia‘s capacities to build a mega-tunnel complex? It would be fun!

Unless, of course, PLARF already has some of its ICBMs hiding in tunnels, there? ;)
I believe Russian strategic forces actually do have their bases near there. It'll be to China's advantage to put bases on the other side so that any attack would inevitably drag in Russia.

If this true, then the cruelty and barbarism in this war is about to go to the next level
you know, they really wanted to say they're not Nazis, many people want to believe they're not Nazis, yet every time they disappoint.
 

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Richard Santos

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The russian modules were originally designed to form complete stand alone space station as a success to the Mir. In its current role provides much of core house keeping function to the ISS such as attitude control and navigation. So it would not be surprising if it can easily function as a detached stand alone station. The key is with sanction and cost of war in ukraine, how long can russia afford to continue to service it independently.

If the Russians suddenly leave, there is no doubt the ISS, with insufficient navigation abs attitude control capability, would be in trouble. With US commitment to return men to the moon by 2024-2025, there is no serious prospect of providing the ISS with permanent replacement of lost capabilities. If the US decides to abandon the ISS, there is also no prospect of an nationally funded replacement in the foreseeable future.
 

victoon

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although I strongly support China staying out of the Ukrainian war mess except helping broker peace and settlement, I am deeply sympathetic to Ukrainians that are on their way or already part of China (through either immigration or marriage). I seriously hope Beijing will be generous in letting the families of Ukrainian expats China settle in China.
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Kinzhal'd again.

Xi Yazhou's analysis:
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The fuel depot is too large and have too many fire breaks between the different sections for it to be easily destroyed by one missile, you will need a lot of missiles if you want to destroy them all, so instead Russia used the Kinzhal to destroy the depot's pumping station. Without it UA can't get any of the fuel out and this will degrade the mobility of their mechanised forces in the south. The missile came from Crimea direction.
 
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