Ukrainian War Developments

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Insignius said:
We help Russia to kill people who want to kill or are always ready to help killing Chinese people. Easy enough for you?

Make no mistake, AZOV were there at Hongkong Riots and if the US gives them the order, they will be the first to join in any military campaign against China. Azov will be raping and strangling pregnant Chinese women just as they have done in Odessa 2014.

Every bullet fired by Russia towards the West is a bullet they also fire in our stead.
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I wasn't aware of this, but you're right.
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Yeah, Ukraine definitely needs to go.
 
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RottenPanzer said:
A question
What Ukraine did right when Saddam's Iraq were wrong?
Or in a simplify manner
What mades the Ukrainians put a fierce resistance for the past weeks with inflicting casualties to the enemy side Whereas Iraq under Saddam (both at gulf war and Iraq war 2003) did virtually put none resistance? I mean, Saddam's Iraq theoritically speaking should have been able to inflicted heavy casualties to the Coalition forces.
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Probably the lack of a shock and awe campaign, the idiotic performance of the Russian army in the first days which resulted in a lot of casualties, (now) the slow progress that Russian forces are making and Rusia losing the information war

Morale, as usual, plays a huge part in how the military and civilians act in a war
 
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tygyg1111 said:
Given the nature of europeans and their descendants, if the itch for war is not curable then it would work out best for the world if all future conflicts are confined to Europe. The world existed for millennia without non-stop war before europeans polluted the world with conflict and exploitation beyond their means, and it can and should return to the old norm with the right inputs
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Nice.
The Mongols are estimated to have killed up to 1/10th of the world's population during their reign.
The Aztec and the Inca Empires weren't exactly peace-loving but actually rather bloodthirsty not only to their own but to those they conquered.
Ancient Chinese-Japanese wars were pretty vicious.
I could go on and on.
Human history is very much one of non-stop war regardless of race.
 
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RottenPanzer said:
A question
What Ukraine did right when Saddam's Iraq were wrong?
Or in a simplify manner
What made the Ukrainians put a fierce resistance for the past weeks with inflicting casualties to the enemy side Whereas Iraq under Saddam (both at gulf war and Iraq war 2003) did virtually put none resistance? I mean, Saddam's Iraq theoritically speaking should have been able to inflicted heavy casualties to the Coalition forces.
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Ukrainians haven't been bombed for months before the ground operation?
 
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vincent said:
Regime change or worst, breakup of Russian Federation, or losing Central Asia
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Wait.... US sanctions can result in Regime Change in Russia? Let Iran and North Korea know that...they been under US sanctions forever.

NATO is not even directly involved. I really don't see how there is 'Russia Defeat' via collapse/regime change from this Ukraine war. This is some hyperbolic fearmongering to justify China sacrificing it's relationship with US/EU to 'save Russia' from 'Defeat' when there is no such probability.
 
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Wait.... US sanctions can result in Regime Change in Russia? Let Iran and North Korea know that...they been under US sanctions forever.

NATO is not even directly involved. I really don't see how there is 'Russia Defeat' via collapse/regime change from this Ukraine war. This is some hyperbolic fearmongering to justify China sacrificing it's relationship with US/EU to 'save Russia' from 'Defeat'.
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Geez, i guess colour revolutions in multiple countries never happened eh?
 
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RottenPanzer said:
A question
What Ukraine did right when Saddam's Iraq were wrong?
Or in a simplify manner
What made the Ukrainians put a fierce resistance for the past weeks with inflicting casualties to the enemy side Whereas Iraq under Saddam (both at gulf war and Iraq war 2003) did virtually put none resistance? I mean, Saddam's Iraq theoritically speaking should have been able to inflicted heavy casualties to the Coalition forces.
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I think the biggest factor was 10 years of UN sanctions, not the illegal ones America tries to impose these days. They could only import food and bare basics for oil. Iraq was a failed state at that point. Most people were happy to see the regime go.
 
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