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The supposed article from a web site NOT associated with the supposed author "Hu Wei" is NOT an evidence.

In the court of law if you present a weapon as evidence, you must present the link between the person and the weapon. Throwing in a random object to the court isn't admissible which means nobody need to prove it being a forgery before you present your evidence of its authenticity. You should know that if you are who you said you are.
and he say he is a "LAWYER", LOL.:eek:
 

Aegis21

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You do? From which country French fries colonized?
Russians are being way too gentle for my liking. I would bombed the shit out of the people who try to live fancy live on stolen wealth of other countries.
French fries can keep whatever left after paying the bills.
I wonder whether the CPRF will succeed Putin. Will they be against this corruption?
 

Jingle Bells

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Is there a picture of Hu Wei? I am not familiar with the inner circle of Chinese politics.
Most aren't, that's why bullshist can pass for "believable truth" for a lot of people.

and he say he is a "LAWYER", LOL.:eek:
I bet he's a "human rights LAWYER"! :cool:

Just kidding!
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Han Patriot

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There is a very strong possibility that if China were to lend large scale military assistance to Russia, the United States will retaliate by formally recognizing the independence of Taiwan shortly after the conflict in Ukraine reach some kind of hiatus. In such a case or China will be in the very difficult position of choosing to fight or not. Giving up any major military asset such as fourth generation fighters to russia, Especially when it is not altogether clear such support could have any decisive affect on the outcome, will not be seen as a particularly slick move
Why are you so afraid? It's gonna come sooner or later, just supply them clandestinely. Change the Chinese markings to Russian ones and claimed it's a tech transfer product.
 

gelgoog

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Honestly I would expect Russian built equipment in PLA service such as Su30/35, Kilo class and Mil 17s. China has better indigenous systems to replace them with and Russia would mainly be intending these to deter NATO rather than for the immediate fight in Ukraine.
Uh... You do know the Russians have not lost any of their Kilo or Su-35 right?
Besides the Kilos the Chinese have in service are older than the ones the Russians have in service. The Russians are presently retiring similar vintage Kilos and replacing them with new models. China is scrapping theirs.
The Su-30 in Chinese service are different enough from Russian ones to make the whole exercise pointless.

The Javelins supplied to Ukraine were AFAIK early models nearing life expiry. Javelin itself is a pretty old design (first fielded 1996), and was used extensively in Iraqi Freedom 2003.
Right. And yet the US does not have any more modern anti-tank weapon. The NLAW the UK sent were fielded in 2009. The UK do not have anything more modern either.

Not sure where the next generation of ATGM will go. Perhaps replaced entirely by 'suicide drones', air and UGM based, which don't require a crew to risk themselves? Will be interesting to see Chinese developments in this field.
Drones are not a replacement. The next generation ATGMs are already entering service like the French MMP which does not require cryo-cooling of the sensor and allows target data input from external sources.

Er, yeah. Not forgetting the totally VAST quantities of stuff supplied to them by UK and (especially) USA. UK invaded Iran so it could supply USSR. Japan, much to the chagrin of its supposed allies, failed to interdict convoys from USA to Vladivostok. Almost the entire production of P39s went to USSR. You can certainly say that USSR supplied the blood needed to defeat Hitler, but UK and USA supplied a lot of the means.
Yes. And the Afghans kicked the Soviets out of Afghanistan because of US supplied Stinger missiles. "Almost the entire production of P39s" you mean the fighters the US Army Air Forces considered to be shit and did not want.
 
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Nobaru

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There is a very strong possibility that if China were to lend large scale military assistance to Russia, the United States will retaliate by formally recognizing the independence of Taiwan shortly after the conflict in Ukraine reach some kind of hiatus. In such a case or China will be in the very difficult position of choosing to fight or not. Giving up any major military asset such as fourth generation fighters to russia, Especially when it is not altogether clear such support could have any decisive affect on the outcome, will not be seen as a particularly slick move
Not possibility, they will do it. And China should retaliate by officially recognizing native America. An independent strong kingdom of Hawaii would be a great tourist destination.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Not possibility, they will do it. And China should retaliate by officially recognizing native America. An independent strong kingdom of Hawaii would be a great tourist destination.
Kind of meaningless and symbolic.

What would really be a retaliation is making it illegal for any company operating within China to comply with unilateral foreign sanctions - including on Iran and North Korea, not just Russia.
 

Nobaru

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Kind of meaningless and symbolic.

What would really be a retaliation is making it illegal for any company operating within China to comply with unilateral foreign sanctions - including on Iran and North Korea, not just Russia.
Kind of. Just like America "officially" recognizing "Taiwan".

Rest of the post is ok. But very soft for my liking. An economic response for violation of sovereignty is too weak. I propose china & russia should actively ponder about the idea of creating a black America with military bases there. Of course I don't particularly mind if it comes after civil war 2.
 
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