Ukrainian War Developments

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james smith esq

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Please excuse this little bit of humor. If anyone finds it offensive, I’ll ask a moderator to remove it. It’s a play on Chinese-English language sounds. So, anyway:
Is there a picture of Hu Wei? I am not familiar with the inner circle of Chinese politics.
He is no where near inner circle. 99.99...% Chinese never heard of him, put as many as 9s as you want.

So, if anyone in China did see his picture they would say, “Hu Hi”?
 
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tamsen_ikard

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In my opinion having American newspapers saying that Russia ask China for some sort of military support is a desinformation attempt to make us all doubt of Russia capabilities. And to be honest is working really good. You all started writing on assumptions and suppositions!. Some times it is better to wait a few hours or a couple of days to see how things evolve.

By the way I would like to say something about how this thread is going. There is an infestation of trolls that they just post official western information that ends up on some users engaging them trying to expose obvious lies but they just end up feeding the trolls. If moderators can't moderate be smart and ignore them.

Don't read (dis) information, read data and then make conclusions. Read a map don't read Oryx Twitter account.

Regards!.

What is wrong with Russia asking for help to China? I don't understand all this denial attempts. If it were true, its a good thing.

If Russia is asking China for help that's good for China. It means Russia has enough trust for China to ask for something as significant as military equipment help. The more Russia trusts China, the more it will be willing to depend on China and fall greater into Chinese influence. That means China will also have greater influence not just in Russia but all of Russian satellites like Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Belarus and so on.

The more influence and dependence and connection China has with its Eurasian back, it will have more power to project on its front in the pacific coast. Russia and Central asia on its back, China will be completely unblockadable by US Naval power. China will have access to vast natural resources in the largest landmass on earth.

Russia always had a superiority complex where they always thought Chinese military tech were inferior to Russians. If they are asking help now, it means they have finally started to have respect for Chinese tech and capabilities. That's another good thing. Russia starting to use Chinese tech and sharing its own tech in return will only strengthen China.

If all this denial is because of fear of western retaliation, then China should realize by now those western sanctions would be coming sooner or later anyway. First of all, China is too big to sanction. Sanctioning China with 1.4 billion people, bigger than US and EU combined is like sanctioning yourself. US and EU will pay equally big cost for broad China sanctions. If they do peacemal sanction on certain Chinese companies, that actually better as that will drive Chinese companies further towards self-reliance. They have been too focused on profit and have not pursued self-reliance well. Only action from the west can change that. So, jolts like this is important for them to come to their senses.

Why is Tik tok fawning over backwards to serve US inteests? because tik tok is too focused on profit and not on the big picture which should be self-reliance. Its time that Chinese companies get more restrictions in the west so that they start focusing on their real market which is the Global south and Chinese internal market itself.
 

james smith esq

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From Liveuamap:
Looks like Russia may be moving to consolidate control of the peninsula-like region south of Kherson:

Russian military column entered Chulakovka, Kherson region

Russian troops again entered Skadovsk, deployed at one of summer children camps on the outskirts of the city
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lube

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Foreign fighters getting mauled in Kyiv.
Even those ex-soldiers aren't ready for a war where the other side has bombers, artillery and can shoot back.


From an American volunteer on the front lines outside of Kyiv: "Sitting close to the frontline, the last safe mode of transportation leaves for greener pastures. A core group of about 30 foreign fighters remains out of around 200 people who were here just minutes ago..."

"The base we came from was struck by rockets in the early morning hours. People we lived with for a couple days are confirmed dead. It is only a matter of time before our location is targeted. We are about to be cut off by a Russian tank column any day now..."

"Food, water, and ammunition dwindle slowly. The mood is somber, people are sending their last messages to friends and family."

"Where is NATO? Where is the supposed good of western civilization?"

An important note: this American is a special ops veteran who completed combat deployments to Afghanistan. He came to Ukraine before Russia's full-scale war on Feb. 24. He is an experienced, well-trained soldier who gave up his lucrative career in the US in order to help Ukraine.

Ukraine is doing the smart thing by putting these volunteers straight into the meatgrinder.
Assuming Russia are going to do the same with the Syrians.
 

Jingle Bells

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Not meaning to stoke any passions here, but perhaps the paper was scrubbed by Chinese censors?
If that's the case, it will defeat the purpose of the original fuzz about this paper.

This person who supposedly wrote this paper is supposedly an think-tank/"advisor". This means that he is in NO position of executive authority (aka. not a decision maker, more like an advise provider). What the person who first brought this up (I don't remember exactly, but I think it's @Maikeru) seemed to imply, is that the fact that the existence of this paper getting headlines is somehow an indication of a potential upcoming "China stabbing Russia in the back, and chum up to the West" event.

However, like I said before, he is (supposedly) a high level think-tank/advisor at best, and not even a well-know one like Jin Can Rong (金灿荣)or Wen Tie Jun (温铁军)etc. And for any large and powerful country, regular advisors and think-tanks as a whole should always have a diversity of ideas and viewpoints, so it should surprise no one that there will be think-tanks and advisors in China writing pro-western papers as advises to the central committee.

And as what @Maikeru (I think it's him, I could be wrong) wanted to imply with this original post, was that the the fact such paper is made public, (either purposefully leaked by the higher-ups, or simply acquired by Western Intel), should indicate a change of attitude.

I do agree that if any respectable Chinese media (especially official or mouth-piece media) openly publish a paper like this, it would be an indication/hint or even a gesture of a change of attitude in the higher-ups.

But if such paper is known to have been censored, it will NOT ONLY be a clear indication of the highest Chinese Authority's utter disgust and rejection of the content and ideas in the paper. I dare to say that it will be a clear indication of their support of the position OPPOSITE to that of this paper.
 

Nobaru

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Now we know where the money for the tyres of Russian Army trucks went:

You do? From which country French fries colonized?
Russians are being way too gentle for my liking. I would bombed the shit out of the people who try to live fancy live on stolen wealth of other countries.
French fries can keep whatever left after paying the bills.
 
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