Ukrainian War Developments
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@Richard Santos Bro, sorry I disagree, we're talking about the Russian here, they have the tech, the industrial capability and logistic to sustain a prolong conflict. You just have to study their history of resiliency, the initial Wehrmacht campaign in 1941, the Russian suffered huge losses and yet by 1944 within 2years and a half they were at the gates of Berlin. The current war is at its initial phase and the Russian are doing a different strategy worth watching (Beijing is surely watching intensively) and adapting, maybe it will become a norm in modern warfare as we enter a multipolar world.
Given how keen Russia seems to be to start a nuclear war with NATO right now, no thanks to the nuclear umbrella idea.
In a few years China will have a much bigger nuclear arsenal than both Russia and America, I'm fine waiting until then.
Reports from China that Ukrainian troops in Odessa are robbing Chinese shipping containers stranded at the port there. Containers full of frozen meat or milk powder are taken away forcibly "by the president's order". These cargo belong to neither Ukraine nor Russia but Chinese traders or other countries.
Er, yeah. Not forgetting the totally VAST quantities of stuff supplied to them by UK and (especially) USA. UK invaded Iran so it could supply USSR. Japan, much to the chagrin of its supposed allies, failed to interdict convoys from USA to Vladivostok. Almost the entire production of P39s went to USSR. You can certainly say that USSR supplied the blood needed to defeat Hitler, but UK and USA supplied a lot of the means.
That piece of disinformation is trying to exactly stir a sh*t storm. And people just play to it.
But I'll bite your bait on Taiwan.
Firstly, Russia does not need Chinese military equipment to handle Ukraine. That's so laughable. The only reason Ukraine is still holding now is because Russia is holding back for political reasons, for now. If and when it comes to the point that Russia will need to complete the business, it will have plenty of appropriate military equipment to get it done, without needing anything from China.
Second, should Russia ever need military support from China, things would become so bad that China will support. Because it would be in China's fundamental interest to see Russia not fall. Doubt it would ever happen militarily though.
Lastly, don't threaten China on Taiwan. You appear to be still under the illusion that Taiwan is a card that the US can just play randomly against China when in reality Taiwan has become increasingly a liability for the US. Cross the redlines, China will take over Taiwan and you will lose even the resemblance of piece of card. And don't roll out your nuclear card - we've been there and you know the answer.
there are many 'for god and country' neocons in the deep state of the state department and CIA that would rather maintain US hegemony at all costs. but the actual political will to sever ties economically with China, known full well by the American political class, will result in a second Great Depression, further destabilizing the entire world and making chances of all out conflict even more likely; besides, which country is more likely to survive such a drastic dislocation (an ethnically and politically homogeneous China, or a racially, ideologically, economically, and geographically divided America. the reason neocons don't care is because they see such a result to be the last and only chance of maintaining American primacy in the world (the status quo favors China and would simply be a matter of time, less than 10 years, before China eclipses the US for good). neocons would rather take the chance of sending the entire world to disaster than to simply let China take over. I am betting they won't get their way
Careful with the blanket statement. I know a hispanic ex-NYPD who did 4 tours of Iraq/Afghanistan because the money was too good. Does not mean he will go to Ukraine unless the war sponsor raise their offer.
This fake news is simply a negotiating strategy by the empire.
Today China is meeting the empire's officials in Rome. Before diplomatic meetings Biden's puppets always attack China. Right now they're worried China might supply arms to Russia.
The next step is easy as pie. Biden's puppets tell CNN, BBC, and the Jew York Times to write that China is supplying arms to Russia. The faithful propagandists immediately parrot their master's lie. Thus the pre-meeting anti-China attack ritual has been performed.
China then says it isn't helping Russia. This will be useful for the empire in case Russia really does need such help in the future.
Today China is meeting the empire's officials in Rome. Before diplomatic meetings Biden's puppets always attack China. Right now they're worried China might supply arms to Russia.
The next step is easy as pie. Biden's puppets tell CNN, BBC, and the Jew York Times to write that China is supplying arms to Russia. The faithful propagandists immediately parrot their master's lie. Thus the pre-meeting anti-China attack ritual has been performed.
China then says it isn't helping Russia. This will be useful for the empire in case Russia really does need such help in the future.
In my opinion having American newspapers saying that Russia ask China for some sort of military support is a desinformation attempt to make us all doubt of Russia capabilities. And to be honest is working really good. You all started writing on assumptions and suppositions!. Some times it is better to wait a few hours or a couple of days to see how things evolve.
By the way I would like to say something about how this thread is going. There is an infestation of trolls that they just post official western information that ends up on some users engaging them trying to expose obvious lies but they just end up feeding the trolls. If moderators can't moderate be smart and ignore them.
Don't read (dis) information, read data and then make conclusions. Read a map don't read Oryx Twitter account.
Regards!.
By the way I would like to say something about how this thread is going. There is an infestation of trolls that they just post official western information that ends up on some users engaging them trying to expose obvious lies but they just end up feeding the trolls. If moderators can't moderate be smart and ignore them.
Don't read (dis) information, read data and then make conclusions. Read a map don't read Oryx Twitter account.
Regards!.
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