Ukrainian War Developments

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Richard Santos

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There is a very strong possibility that if China were to lend large scale military assistance to Russia, the United States will retaliate by formally recognizing the independence of Taiwan shortly after the conflict in Ukraine reach some kind of hiatus. In such a case or China will be in the very difficult position of choosing to fight or not. Giving up any major military asset such as fourth generation fighters to russia, Especially when it is not altogether clear such support could have any decisive affect on the outcome, will not be seen as a particularly slick move
 

Maikeru

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If China were to seriously consider supplying Russia with arms, then it should exact a price commensurate with the diplomatic and economic price China would pay for that support. The only thing Russia really has that China really wants is SS(B/G)N technology. There's a deal to be done there if China is willing to pay the price. Not sure anything else Russia can offer would be worth it. Commodities can always be purchased elsewhere.
 

james smith esq

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The Javelins supplied to Ukraine were AFAIK early models nearing life expiry. Javelin itself is a pretty old design (first fielded 1996), and was used extensively in Iraqi Freedom 2003.

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Not sure where the next generation of ATGM will go. Perhaps replaced entirely by 'suicide drones', air and UGM based, which don't require a crew to risk themselves? Will be interesting to see Chinese developments in this field.
Not to get too far, off-topic, but there are potentially, several air and ground-based (including infantry-fielded), options and attack-profiles that will be explored in future ATGM developments.
 

Richard Santos

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What China needs is not technology. technology takes too long to translate into military capability. If China were to supply large scale military aid to Russia, sino american relationship can collapse totally very quickly, in matter of weeks or month. military technology can not translate into countervailing military capability for many years, even decade or more. The only thing that would be worth China ripping up all possibility of modus vivandi with the US is if Russia makes a binding commitment to immediately extend her nuclear umbrella over china while china builds up her own strategic deterrence.
 

Richard Santos

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Such a commitment from Russia, if totally credible, would be worth giving up any possibility of accommodation with a already mostly hostile US. However, in reality, it is difficult to imagine such an existentially all or nothing commitment can really be totally credible.
 
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