These secondary sanctions are the fastest way to correct that problem.
Ukrainian War Developments
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They've ruled out kicking Russia from SWIFT even if the Russians start levelling Kiev.
At the same time, they're doubling down on weaponizing the semiconductor supply chain against Russia.
Both are awful long term decisions but the financial experts are over-represented in US decision making so they're more leery of the first. And of course, the Europeans are going to be eating the costs of the economic war, not the US.
Kind of a silly position because while they're holding off the equivalent of a financial nuclear war, they've already launched economic tactical nukes left and right and praying it won't bite them in the ass over the next few decades.
At the same time, they're doubling down on weaponizing the semiconductor supply chain against Russia.
Both are awful long term decisions but the financial experts are over-represented in US decision making so they're more leery of the first. And of course, the Europeans are going to be eating the costs of the economic war, not the US.
Kind of a silly position because while they're holding off the equivalent of a financial nuclear war, they've already launched economic tactical nukes left and right and praying it won't bite them in the ass over the next few decades.
So @Phead128 please enlighten us how is this potential and possible AMERICAN led move isn't an upfront to international law. Should China simply capitulate from this potential action by abandoning Russia? And if such pussified action is undertaken what guarantee will China get in return? Zilch.
ok.
The invasion of Iraq was not justifiable. It was wrong. There was no imminent threat.
The invasion of Afghanistan was, but the occupation was handled so badly as to make it grossly stupid to have done.
What I think personally about right or wrong isn't the point.
You have been condemning the US for its adventures and yet are seemingly cheering on Russia here. How is it different? How are you able to justify it? Not from my judgement POV, but from the POV of understanding the internal logic of another person.
It its the POV of 'I hate America,' then that explains it. If its from the POV of anyone who stands up to the US is good, even if it means a war, ok, that's an explanation, too. Perhaps there's a deeper nuisance to what you are about to say. I'd like to hear your POV and its basis in the logic you have.
Power doesn't make right. Power simply will set what nations will do. That's my opinion.
Now then, what is your opinion?
Does Russia have the right to invade Ukraine and what is the justification? The further bit about China is off topic for the thread.
Yup by that logic if US does a first strike to nuke China, China might as well not even retaliate because 1) two Wongs dont make a White 2) what purpose does it serve if China already got wiped out nothing will bring the Chinese civilization back ...
The fact is if US really wanted to bad enough, it can and will drag China into a war... its up to China to decide what the red lines are and what its willing to fight for
The world is now a negative sum game of ever shrinking pies. Bid thy time is no longer the right strategy for China... neither is NFU, Nonintervention, nor turn thy cheek. Its now a game of who can pull the mf rug out from underneath the other's foot first and remain last man standing
If US lobs a nuke of any sort at China, China will go all out. At that stage, there would be nothing wrong with killing 100 million Americans even if it means the death of 1 billion of my people. I believe china's strike assets would allow us to kill more than 100 million americans, but it matters not. That would be china's greatest contribution of humanity, the selfless sacrifice of itself to stop the world's most genocidal polity, one which eradicated 100 million native American lives. If our light dies, at least we will give the chance of light to africa, latin america, and arab world, once america and the anglo world is removed, it will be their chance to shine.
While it may seem ridiculous, there is nothing wrong with China adopting a Samson option like Israel in the face of annihilation. In fact there is no option on the table.
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Brigadier
He's a comedian. Really.
He's still in Ukraine, that's better than a lot of oligarch...
If you think violation of international law and infringing upon sovereignty territorial integrity is "No problemo" , then perhaps you forgot about the "Century of Humiliation" and loss of Hong Kong and other Unequal treaties. Among the 8 nation alliance, the US only acquired an concession, whereas Russia annexed large swathes of Qing territory (Trans-Amur Baikal). If China ever became weak again, who knows, Russia might exercise the same adventurism on Chinese territory once again.
As a matter of principle, I am against White imperialism (Russian or American) because such brazen imperialism can happen to China in future if it is ever weak again (e.g., Unequal treaties)
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