Ukrainian War Developments

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Chilled_k6

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We have lots of reports of ground deployments but here's a look at the naval and anti shipping side as of Feb 17.

Credit to HI Sutton.

Looks like a strong Russian deployment to shield any possible intervention at their Syrian base if there's an offensive in Ukraine.

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sheogorath

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The Indian elites have really hitched their wagon to their new master a.k.a. the U.S. with one of their personalities making a case why allowing the attack on UKRAINE apparently sets a DANGEROUS PRECEDENT and then invoking the bogeyman that's China. With baseless allegations of China bullying smaller countries around it's periphery like which country has China invaded? Taiwan is an internal issue, a non dejure so-called country, recognized by none other than a few inconsequential (meant no offense) countries. The Indians are such shameless nuisance.


That should put to rest the idea that India is somehow an ally of Russia just because they used to buy russian weapons. They are oportunists, like most fascists.
 

KYli

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Are you suggesting its ok for Russia to invade Ukraine?
What goes around comes around. Western powers have been abusing their powers by invading, sanctioning, and threatening countless nations. Nothing was done to stop them. They have been getting away for so many years and so many times.

Now, Russia as a nuclear power decided to abuse its power and invade Ukraine. Maybe Russia is wrong but so what. Is the US dare to stare down Russia by going into a war with Russia. If not, then all the crying is just useless and irrelevant.

It isn't about right or wrong anymore. It is about hard power. Russia is no longer afraid of the US sanction because the US has misused its sanction. Since Russia has little to lose, then you can't stop Russia unless you are willing to go to war.
 

anzha

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It isn't about right or wrong anymore. It is about hard power. Russia is no longer afraid of the US sanction because the US has misused its sanction. Since Russia has little to lose, then you can't stop Russia unless you are willing to go to war.

If it was wrong for the US to do it, then it is wrong for Russia.

If it was right for the US to do it, then it should be for Russia now if they feel the need.

That's what I am pointing out.

As for power, it's always been about that.
 

KYli

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If it was wrong for the US to do it, then it is wrong for Russia.

If it was right for the US to do it, then it should be for Russia now if they feel the need.

That's what I am pointing out.

As for power, it's always been about that.
Well, don't poke the bear, don't poke the panda, and don't poke the eagle especially you are their neighbors. Both Nations and people might have forgotten that Russia is a military power that the US doesn't dare and want to confront.

They keep talking and talking about so called international rules based order. But have totally forgotten the so called liberal international order is just their small circle and circus to contain rivals.

What they have done to Russia and China for the last few years have ensured that both Russia and China have little to lose. When powerful countries such as Russia and China have little to lose, then you expect them to act decisively for their interests. Sadly after decades of MSM brainwashing people from Ukraine, Taiwan, Estonia, to South Korea etc were irrationally thinking that the all powerful US can defend them and stare down both Russia and China. So these countries keep pissing off both Russia and China without consequences. Oh well, they would have their rude awakening soon.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Are you suggesting its ok for Russia to invade Ukraine?
Why don't you answer my question and then I'll answer yours after.
Are you suggesting its ok for Russia to invade Ukraine?
To you and @Phead128 MIGHT MAKES RIGHT. As much as some of us would like to believe but what I said above is the absolute truth. Question: If China is militarily a joke do you think that the US and it's hilarious "RULES BASED ORDER" would be applied to China? I don't think so. Let's not kid ourselves power, hard power matters greatly from an individual level, company level, and definitely more so on a country level where the fight for control and independence is paramount.

China has found this truth during it's chaotic years when it sent Chinese people to help the so-called ALLIES in World War I helping to defeat then Imperial Germany. It wanted the territories lost to Germany simply be returned back to China but what happened? Japan took it and China was patheticaly weak to stop the process. I am really sick and tired reading the yappings of the western hypocrites. They should taste their own stupid medicine and let them wallow in their self-confidence and greatness.
 
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