The Bulwark is a very nice and very capable LPD.
I wonder what her escort over there consists of. Probably a Type 23 for sure, and perhaps even a Daring is with her.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
The Bulwark is a very nice and very capable LPD.
I wonder what her escort over there consists of. Probably a Type 23 for sure, and perhaps even a Daring is with her.
Jeff HMS Bulwark is part of Response Force Task Group (RFTG) this years deployment is called Couger 13 which contains HMS Illustrious
When the Queen Elizabeth carriers are commissioned one will be part of RTFG a giant amongst giants
The rest of the task group is composed of the following
HMS Bulwark
HMS Illustrious
RFA Mounts Bay
RFA Lyme Bay
HMS Montrose
HMS Westminster
RFA Fort Austin
RFA Fort Victoria
RFA Cardigan Bay
RFA Diligence
42 Commando
30 Commando IX Group
Commando Logistics Regiment
29 Commando Regiment Royal Artillery (Army)
24 Commando Engineer Regiment (Army)
17 Port and Maritime Regiment RLC (Army)
Wow, just two frigates as escorts for an LPD, an LHD, three LSDs (RFAs) and two major replenishment RFA vessels? Seems like a pretty light escort to me.
I would have expected one SSN, and one Daring to be with those major, capital asset vessels.
I mean with the Bulwark, the Illustrious and three of the Bay Class, that's over half of the Royal Navy's major amphibious vessels, the others being the Albion, the Ocean, and the other Bay Class.
Jura The idiot
General
Well, I don't want to think about what would happen if an enemy sent a submarine squadron against this force ... Maybe this statement should calm me down, quote, The Task Group is able to conduct simultaneously a range of operations from deterring adversaries and maritime security to international engagement and supporting regional stability. end of quote from
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asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Royal Navy has a preseence in all oceans apart from Pacific and Indian right now which is stretching the fleet as far as it goes
Out of the 6 x Type 45 DDG here is the status of each as of now
HMS Dauntless is in the Caribbean
HMS Daring is in the Philippines
HMS Defender, Diamond and Dragon are in UK either just back from deployments or ready to go out
And HMS Duncan is in trials
SSN and SSBN is classified information so we can't be sure but I know that HMS Dragon at the start of this month was in the Mediterranean playing cat and mouse with HMS Talent both were in the Eastern part doing excercises so a SSN is somewhere out there for SSBN no one knows
So yes I would say two FFG is a very light escort and thats why I always maintain that 12 x Type 45 DDG should have been built, when the first ones were commissioned they spent hundreds of days out on patrol and the SSN fair worse, HMS Trenchant holds the record for most days at sea for Royal Navy that's 335 days!
Royal Navy has 13 naval operations it is currently conducting that's tied down all major vessels I believe if we had 12 DDG Royal Navy would deploy one to the Pacific and one in the Indian Ocean on a permanent basis
I have one question Asif, please, i have read RN have sometimes/in general ? one SN and one DDG or FFG in the middle East, you confirm ?
Ofc irrespective of the current situation with Syria.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
No need to say please Forbin I happy to share, middleast covers a wide area but certainly in the Persian Gulf RN has currently HMS Echo a Patrol Boat and HMS Shoreham a minesweeper this is in addition to the East of Suez task force part of UKMCC
HMS Westminister a Type 23 FFG is in the Gulf of Aden and HMS Summerset also a Type 23 is in the Red Sea
For SSN I know the route they usually take is Mediterranean passing through the Suez and into the Red Sea for operations with the USN in the Persian Gulf always one in rotation they carry Tomahawks for NATO forces part of the commitment requires Tomahawk cover
HMS Montrose is also out on patrol for the middleast but currently is in the Atlanic Ocean
For SSBN even the best intelligence agency's don't know where they are we see them when they leave Faslane on the Clyde but once they submerge into the water no one knows where they are hiding they never transit the Suez ( because this has to be done while surfaced) either they are the ultimate hidden nuclear deterrence always one on patrol
So I would say RN has one SSN and one SSBN out at all times, SSN covers middleast part of the patrol but not at all times SSBN we will never know
Well, the Type 23, Duke Class frigates are the workhorse combatants for the Royal Navy right now. They are also among the best ASW surface combatants available to anyone.
Yes, the SSN operations are classified...I would think that a Trafalgar is actually with this Task Force...just not announced publically. IMHO, it almost has to be.
I would like see soon one Astute with her look unusual and impressive, they have a little family resemblance with Vanguard.
RN get also with RAF one a very large logistics ships fleet, 9 with Argus including several large excess 30000 t, only of this size with US.
Ready for receive Qu. El. CV.
RN get also with RAF one a very large logistics ships fleet, 9 with Argus including several large excess 30000 t, only of this size with US.
Ready for receive Qu. El. CV.