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CasualObserver

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Interesting, but do these reports also post some information how far along the development is, what milestones have been reached? Just announcing that you want to have an engine ready by 2028 that delivers almost 170 kN of thrust sounds great, but also quite unrealistic when you consider how long it took other nations to achieve something similar.
He's a retired officer of the Land Forces, he has no knowledge regarding naval and aerial domains whatsoever. However I'd be lying if I didn't say he has the right contacts, he has absolutely no restraint when it comes to confidential information and for some reason no penalisation is enforced against him. In short he usually makes weird claims on air but every once in a while he does reveal information.
 

CasualObserver

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Interesting, but do these reports also post some information how far along the development is, what milestones have been reached? Just announcing that you want to have an engine ready by 2028 that delivers almost 170 kN of thrust sounds great, but also quite unrealistic when you consider how long it took other nations to achieve something similar.
I agree, Turkey has the technological base to actually design and produce a 5th gen engine however it will almost surely take longer than planned. The question is how long? By my guesstimate production is possible by 2030 but no earlier. We could still end up wrong though, at this stage it is just too darn early to make any bold claims.
 

gelgoog

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There is more to it than designing the engine. Just getting the proper materials technological base operational in your country is like half the problem. It can take 20 years to develop new materials in some cases. Materials technology evolves really slowly.
 

sequ

Major
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He didn't afaik, but I doubt that.

From what people have asked TRMotor and TEI engineers at fairs and teknofests, the picture is that they want to get the best from both the East and West.

To give an example of the above, Ivchenko Progress is involved in the development, while at the same time Turkish engineers have the F110 flowchart hanging on the walls of their cubicles :)

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BTW, for those who want the F110-GE-129 airflow chart:


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Atomicfrog

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There is more to it than designing the engine. Just getting the proper materials technological base operational in your country is like half the problem. It can take 20 years to develop new materials in some cases. Materials technology evolves really slowly.
If they can make them in number they could have abysmal TBOs at first. They need to design the airframe to accept engine swap in short time if it's the case. If the KAAN can have descent numbers with F110-GE-129, they can aim for something just a bit better, no need to push to far ahead but it's still a big target.
 

CasualObserver

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There is more to it than designing the engine. Just getting the proper materials technological base operational in your country is like half the problem. It can take 20 years to develop new materials in some cases. Materials technology evolves really slowly.
Well it is a well known fact that metallurgy is actually TEI's stronger suit. It's design experience that they were lacking and they overcame that/are overcoming that problem through numerous engine programs at various stages.
 

gelgoog

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Elon got SpaceX's Falcon 1 rocket operational for 40 million USD.
And this guy gets a joyride for more. He's basically funding someone else's space program.
 
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