Would CN even accept Ta1w4n being used as bargaining chips vs themselves?
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Why did my country suddenly stop whining about Egg prices? Or does this only apply to Biden?
This is just Trump being in the bargaining stage of grief, vs some other Americans still in denial or anger.
Bargaining isn't followed by striking a bargain, bargaining is followed by depression.
As China already told Rubio's on his call, the only bargain US can have with with China is US doesn't f* around and China won't make them find out, i.e. stay out of Taiwan and China won't take over US territories.
They don't use the term transactions, but coercion and payment are basically forms of transactions.
source is Get Smart - Combining Hard and Soft Power by Joseph S Nye Jr (2009)
You just described an implied transaction. Obey and get a reward. Disobey and get pain. Should be common sense....
This overly broad definition of soft power prevents any progress from taking place. More on this later.
All these forms of soft power use money, technology, power and according to you, are all hard power. Sending someone a birthday card is hard power to to you because they cut a tree down and turned it into paper.
More excuses for Chinese PR failures. Why was there a lag? It's because the PR department failed at its job. It put out useless boring stupid white worshipping crap presented by ugly feminine nerds instead of talking about things that would impress the foreign audience. It can't even convince its OWN population of the truth that America has problems. That has nothing to do with lag. They just suck.
Why did this "natural" lag suddenly vanish within 3 days when Tiktok refugees invaded XHS and got China piled? Why couldn't CGTN, China Daily, Global Times China-pill anyone? They suck. Obviously.
Keep in mind, most China things foreigners marveled at existed for 10-15 years already.
This whole debate relies on the definition of soft power and hard power. You want to redefine hard power as anything that uses ANY power. The scholars in the field speak about inducement / coercion (which I condense as transaction) vs attraction (which I expand to include lies / deception). No one in the field uses your insane definition.
American Soft Power Will Survive Donald Trump | The National Interest
Culture requires money and technology to produce, policies requires mobilization of massive resources to execute. Even gathering and counting votes requires technology and lots of resources to organize. Casting a vote in this fake democracy is hard power like an ak47 to crazies like you. .
Joseph Nye, soft-power theorist | UU World Magazine
I must emphasis, American values are fake. It's an illusion. Where the human rights for First Nations, Blacks, Asians, etc. That's why I said a lot of Western soft power relies heavily on lies / deception. It's not "just" hard power.
source is Get Smart - Combining Hard and Soft Power by Joseph S Nye Jr (2009)
No one, and I mean no one, uses your insane overly-broad definition of soft power.
If you want to keep going then stop typing up a wall useless crap and find me several credible sources saying movies, tv shows, music, video games are all hard power because they need money and technology to make.
MAGAtard copium. They have a false dichotomy for why Trump would pick a slug like Rubio for secretary of state, so they make up stories about he's got a minder.
This is just like when Trump picked John Bolton for national security advisor. At least then Trump would publically call him an idiot and point out how stupid he was at every opportunity.
I don't think my definition of hard power is too broad at all. Literally paying propagandists is diamond hard power. It is only soft compared to sanctions, jets and tanks.
The propagandists are money motivated, not ideologically motivated. The literal day that the payment stopped, the propagandists stopped. It is a job. If the government wasn't directly paying these keyboard warriors, how many of them actually believe what they type? If they actually believed it, they'd do it for free. Yet they couldn't even do it for free for a few days!! How is this soft power when you have to literally pay people to believe you and the minute the payment stops the pretense is gone?
Pop culture aren't soft power either. Real soft power is having an idea that people will risk or give up their wealth, freedom and even lives for, even irrationally in the face of overwhelming hard power odds, without needing to be paid for it. In fact they'll even donate their own money for it. Stuff like ideology, religion and culture.
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They don't use transactions because that's not what's important.
Nye defines soft power as power through attaction.
1. If he included attraction to hard power, then it is a nonviolent extension of hard power.
2. By his definition, inciting terrorism in Xinjiang would not count as soft power because it is inciting hatred of China, not attraction to the US.
No. Your reading comprehension needs work. You described a transaction. I described a long term working relationship where the leader does not offer reward nor issue threat for any order, but it is understood that the long term following of such orders leads to success and prosperity and the long term disobedience leads to hardship. That is a long term working relationship based on hard power.
There can be no progress because the concept of soft power is wrong and I will be happy to debate Joseph Nye if he were here. If you call things soft power as a separate entity to hard power, but then concede that it is dependent on conductance by hard power, then no soft power exists as an independent vessel to hard power. Rather, it is perfectly described as the non-violent extension of hard power.
Every country has these, but only a few countries have what you think is soft power. Why? Because these same platforms are "soft power" when they are backed by hard power, but nothing when they are not backed by hard power. Hence, they are just extensions of hard power.
If you send Xi a birthday card, he throws it in the trash without reading it. If Putin sends Xi a birthday card, it is saved and reported in the news as a sign of friendship between the Chinese and Russian people. It can be the same thing written inside. This is the difference between pure soft power and an extension of hard power.
These are just excuses for your little boy angry emotions.
No, because in all of history, there is a lag between when one power surpasses another power and the time when it is recognized. Partially, it is because this is so complicated that even the powers themselves don't know when one has become more powerful than the other. But also, in this case, the more you brag, the more desperate you look. The CCP builds a prosperous life and future for Chinese people; it doesn't have a big mouth ranting about all it does. Keep a low profile while doing much; that is the Chinese way to success. But it doesn't seem to be your way.
Mmmmmmmm you want to impress the foriegn audience so much? Seems very white-worshipping to me LOL I sense you have a lot of pain and anger in your personal life and wish to blame the government for it. The Chinese are very happy to learn this way that we are better than others; it is your life that just sucks.
Americans were indoctrinated by their government not to trust anything the CCP says. This is US home turf advantage. But when they see it in personal interactions, they cannot deny it.
You're an idiot, obviously. Are you even Chinese? You seem so foreign to Chinese culture. You're just complaining all day, why don't the CCP climb the tallest mountain in the world and shout/brag at the top of their lungs how great they are? What even the hell are you talking about?
China's standard of living has been rising and Americans' dropping. 10-15 years ago, they would not have marvelled at how we can afford so much food. 10-15 years ago, the Chinese tech scene was nowhere near as dominant as now over the West. 10-15 years ago, Chinese cars were laggard; but now, they are the best in the world. These are the main points that impressed Americans.
No, I define any power that relies on hard power as extensions of hard power.
You condensed and expanded? So you are the one making redefinitions, eh? And so we're confirmed that nowhere does it "clearly" say anything about transactions, as you falsely claimed.
My logical definition which you cannot challenge. No one can challenge it. Look at your birthday card example to see why there is no power without hard power.
What is the purpose of this article?
Cavemen had culture. Animals have culture.
Effective policy making and governing is a must for hard power.
You realize there is a baseline in humanity where below this you can't even operate, right? Your idiotic comparisons like, "Eating and breathing are hard power because they need muscles to do," only show your extreme incompetence. It is when your abilities rise above the baseline that you begin to build hard power above the baseline. In other words, the hard power you have over others isn't your basic ability to live under no stress; it is your ability to do what others cannot.
Why do you compare to an AK47? Ahhhh because you're so stupid you still think hard power is just military.
It doesn't rely on lies or deception. It relies on guns and money. These lies aren't clever; anyone can see through them. But they choose not to, because American hard power makes it too dangeorus for most to do so.
Seems other people here do. Especially those who agree with me. And also, calling something insane is unfortunately very different from successfully challenging its logic, which you cannot.
The only wall of useless crap is you failing to understand that you cannot be entirely dependent on the conductance of hard power then claim to be an independent soft power. Once again, ability above the baseline. Any country can make these; your ability above your peers is your standing hard power.
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Instead of some 4d chess move is it really that hard to believe that they are just short on cash?
I don't want to play this game of semantics. The leaders in this field have settled on one set of general definitions that seem sensible. I'm going with that. If we have to account for how strong people's convictions are then these debates will become even more unproductive than they already are.
It's soft power because it may change the target's minds and that may change their behavior. It's not about the employees doing the work. Look at the usa psyops against Chinese covid 19 vaccines. What if the employees didn't believe it? Who cares. The job was done and lots of people rejected the Chinese vaccine and they died because they got duped. Very sad for the people but I'm the American psychopaths are very happy.