Trade War with China

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AssassinsMace

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According to Western propaganda outsourcing to China is all slave labor, so the West does have a use for it today. It's to China's best interests to make sure African and other countries succeed because the more independent countries in this world... the West has less control over it.
 

Flying_Fortress

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Howard French is well known China basher He was correpondent for Christian Science monitor at one time That should tell you who he i.s It is funny how the western pundit slander China development aid as neo colonialism Well the difference is China didn't plunder Africa they pay for the african natural resource
They pay wages to the african labor and not enslave them

Well they say the aid will impoverish African because they couldn't possible pay back the loan. Nothing is free in this world Those loan are the result of sweat and labor of the Chinese people of course they demand interest to do otherwise is irresponsible
There are rascist people everywhere but through their long history China never enslave other people
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Ok, so you googled him and came to the snap decision he is a China basher, despite not reading his works or even knowing who he was before I mentioned his name. Typical for this lot here.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Ok, so you googled him and came to the snap decision he is a China basher, despite not reading his works or even knowing who he was before I mentioned his name. Typical for this lot here.

I read his article from many years I know more about him than you do. He is typical of western liberal busy body. good at criticism but do absolutely nothing for the Chinese peoplen like so many of you guys. The western missionary only bring bible and misery to tho Chinese people They are the precursor to China's invasion by the west
China and Chinese bootstrap themselves by using sweat capital and no the west does not help China !
You might as well believe in Gordon Chang and his ilk
 

manqiangrexue

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As for China's domestic aircraft...if they had any confidence at all in their own aircraft production ability, the government would force all of the Chinese airlines to buy China Made planes, they would have no choice it would be a "National Priority".
I can't help but notice that you keep shooting yourself in the foot with broken logic... Does America force its own airlines to use only Boeing and no Airbus? Does France force its airlines to use only Airbus and no Boeing? Does any country do what you say to show "confidence?" Your "arguments" are so very sad and broken...
The fact that China is just getting around to making their own domestic airplanes in 2018 really speaks testament's about the ingenuity of this country.
The fact that China has the fastest supercomputers, the only quantum satellites, and the most advanced quantum communications is far better as "testament." World-beating technology measures innovation, not the replication of existing technologies like passenger jets. And also, China has had domestic airplanes for decades and decades now.
Asian's are also more docial, and controllable.. that's why they didn't build all the factories in Africa, despite being rich in natural resources.
Sounds like you mean "focused and competent." The West's number 1 fear is China not being docile and not being controllable. They don't fear Africa, do they? LOL
The U.S. really does not need China. It could easily manufacture everything it's self, it did before, and the current trend is to let in illegal aliens to do the shit work Americans won't do.
And as soon as America adopts that ideology of doing everything on its own for the sake of protectionism, it will become an old economy, like Europe, where everything is expensive, people try to cut out excess, and growth grinds to a halt because there is low economic activity. So yes, America does not need China to survive (and of course, neither does China need the US), but the US depends on China to prosper.
We have to factor in greed, greed can destroy a country, and that is what is happening in America.
Greed gave the USA its current power. Live by the sword; die by the sword.
Today's China is a result of U.S. & European Greed...the overlords & oligarchs did not expect China to develop so quickly, so hats off to China for defying expectations.
There you go trying to take credit for other people's success again LOL, Today's China is a result of the Chinese adapting to survive and prosper in their environment and possessing the ability to exploit the weaknesses of rival countries to its own benefit. In other words, China's winning at Chess because it's a better Chess player. The only fault of Europe of the US is that they are inferior strategists and tacticians compared to the Chinese.
 
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ougoah

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Time and time again it's been proven that western policies are aimed at enslaving those who are not part of their "clique". From slavery of Africans to slavery of Asia through less direct means but economically all the same, these same people and groups still want to hold onto their eroding political, economic, and military power. Chinese have slowly stood up against this and some effort to reverse the flow of wealth and power has begun from the same "evil authoritarian" government that have so far aimed to create a more equitable world. The post civil rights Americans like to claim that is how modern America operates but again and again it seems to be working the same way. Creating false pretenses for wars, invasions, over-throwing governments, spying on others and their own citizens. Africa, with the assistance of China through whatever mechanisms that are being proposed and enacted, can and hopefully will eventually be free from the true oppressors. Most Africans know this well enough despite the many agents who persist to take advantage of gullible minds.

Since there is empirical proof (mountains and mountains of undeniable evidence) that western powers (read USA) only seek to enrich their own, Africa would be a fool to still bet on that slave owner in the hopes they will become more humane to the world (ask yourself why Africa has consistently been troubled since its early days of contact with western civilisation until China came into the picture). China is an unproven new-comer. It certainly understands how to bring entire populations out of poverty together (in contrast to western style like India). So why not gamble on something that is at least not a certain failure. Of course strong resistance can be expected and we already see this year after year....... The thing is they've likely gone beyond the point of no return in pushing China down. Perhaps it was partly like Flying Fortress says, ie western powers acting benign to China's rise in the earlier stages and underestimating the collective Chinese resolve, held together and enforced harshly by the CPC. Whatever reason it is, it has undeniably served the VAST majority of Chinese people well over the decades.

Chinese people need to become even more assertive. These efforts to destroy the unity of modern China under whatever regime they want to describe it as, must be responded to in kind. I hope Chinese consumers hurt American and European (US vassals) economies and hurt them badly. If only the wealthy in China can completely stop consuming totally overpriced, non-necessary pseudo luxury products from these nations. They ought to be thankful for Chinese patronage but these people complain endlessly despite the great wealths being injected into their nations (you will only hear of racism against Chinese in Canada and Australia for Chinese tourists bringing money and spending it there). Meanwhile Chinese products are often complete necessities to living and/or the continuation of certain living standards and tools for economic growth. Of course these are generalised but it is mostly true. No one NEEDS to drive a BMW. Basically, if they want war however they want to bring it, let them have it. It can only hurt the guilty party more the way the numbers are stacked.
 
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