The War in the Ukraine

TK3600

Captain
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Dude, Russia is supposed to be a military superpower with the 2nd most powerful military on earth(yes many western and Eastern experts and publications used to put Russia's military power even above that of China. Lol ) so they shouldn't even be sweating that hard in defeating a lesser power like Ukraine( WHO SHARES A FLAT LAND BORDER WITH RUSSIA, this is not even an expeditionary war like the one the US often fights around the world). Obviously Ukraine is the underdog BY FAR and they are the ones on the defensive since they are the one's whose territory is being invaded by a much larger/powerful military superpower by some extent. You expected Ukraine to defeat Russia in the first place? There should be nothing surprising for anybody if Russia had crushed Ukraine like everyone or most people expected them to do, the surprise is that not only were they unable to do so but they were even pushed back at some point and they are still bogged down in Ukraine after over 2 years now with no victory in sight(plus this is a conventional war between 2 armies not even a guerilla type of war which is more complex). Of course Ukraine whose territory is being invaded and fought over will suffer far more material and economic damage since its on their home soil the invading army is fighting on and they are thee are the weaker side. So I don't understand why you are using that as some sort of victory for Russia?
Seriously, I understand that some of you guys are pro Russian fans, but that doesn't means can't even recognise this obvious facts? I'm just making an observation not like I have anything against Russia or Ukraine..

For your points about Russia being in a far better social/political situation compared to the West and Russia not having much riots/protests etc. I don't even know how to address that point.
Of course Russia's political system is different dude. The country is run by a one man system..in short the system itself is Putin. Little to nobody can dare challenge him and go unpunished without repercussions. I'm not saying their system is wrong or whatever, since they can adopt the system they want it's up to them not our call. I'm just saying Russias system is different from most Western countries who have a multi party democratic system with constant change of government/leadership through public votes and where the system actually encourages the leader/ruling party being challenged/contradicted and contested with very strong institutions( Congress, Parliament, independent judiciary etc) which means leaders/authorities don't think losing power or being replaced is the end of the world. So of course social reality will be different from Russia. It's no wonder you see many wealthy and even middle class Russians have emigrated to the West in large numbers. If the West system and reality was so bad and collapsing they won't be going there, don't you think? In fact Westerners will be the ones trying to emigrate to Russia, NO?
Anyway, each system has its own benefits and faults. Just that from what we have seen so far most people still prefer living in the system we have in the West than Russia's I guess.
Matter of perspective. Ukraine has more aid than russian military budget. Ukraine has more men due to mobilization. It gets high end ISR support, elite western special forces, as well as direct NATO industrial aid. Lastly, they are on defense. On paper, Ukraine is stronger. Russia only use firepower advantage to equalize. This changed when Ukraine depleted manpower in suicide charge, and aid stopped. Now we are back to initial estimation.
 

TK3600

Captain
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They were/are the most ideologically devoted, and considered elites which gave them a lot of autonomy. But that elite status and autonomy is a double edged sword as they see themselves as above the common cannon fodders, so are much more likely to get demoralised and run when ordered to perform cannon fodder tasks and die like common cannon fodder for the greater good as they think they ‘deserve’ better. Same reason why most western volunteers cut and ran as soon as things turned hard.
Same way SS are ideologically devoted, has priority in equipment, do not translate to fighting result.
 

Tam

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Two ODAB-500 lands on Ukrainian positions in Urozhayne.

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Another Ukrainian P-18 search radar gets struck. Culprit is not mentioned but I can see a long thin missile hitting it on a low angle. I think likely it's another X-35 antiship missile like the last time. The missiles are fired from a Flanker.

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Russian flag is now over the Krasnogorovka brick factory. Not too long ago, we see FABs and ODABs all over it. The site was taken by the 5th Brigade.

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Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter down and a soldier, I think Ukrainian, smugly posing like he did it.

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Video of Russian soldiers hoist another flag in Ocheretino. Could be a school or government building.

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Russian FPV drone flies right into the window of this home being used by Ukrainian troops as a shelter.

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Russian antidrone crew at work with a ZU-23-2 and an EMF gun, taking down drones. Shows off a Baba Yaga which they downed.

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Self inflicted. Ukrainian tank rams into Ukrainian armored car at full speed sending it turning over.

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Tulips of the 238th continue to work on Ukrainian positions in Krasnogorovka.

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Azovets in Moscow headed for display.

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Ukrainian anti drone vehicle with ZU-23-2 gets hit with a Lancet.

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Missile strike on a Ukrainian parking lot of military equipment.

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Ka-52 takes out three vehicles with Vikhr ATGMs.

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It's the Turtle Tank. Or the Tank with the Attic. Somewhere in Donetsk.

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Self inflicted. Careless loading of ammunition caused an explosion on a parking lot with Ukrainian military vehicles in Nikolaev. Two soldiers were killed.

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98th VDV working on clearing the forests near the railway in Chasiv Yar.

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Russian troops attacking Solovyovo now.

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Here we see the Turtle Tank or Tsar Mangal moving along in the street.

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Tsar Mangal ran into a mine and damaged in Krasnogorovka. Later it was pulled out and fixed.

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Aftermath of the missile strike near the Gorbaty Bridge in Odessa. Turns out there's hangers of Ukrainian military equipment.

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Russian missiles hit Ukrainian positions in Ugledar.

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Krasnopol appears to have taken out a Ukrainian artillery unit in Netailovo.

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Russia prepares Victory Day exhibit with restored captured equipment.


The Black Hussars Spetznaz unit poses with the Arbat Spetznaz unit with their flags declaring the capture of Novobakhmutka. The Arbat soldiers have Wagner insignia in their uniforms.


Kuban artillery troops of the 238th takes out a Ukrainian 2A65 MSTA-B howitzer under heavy disguise.

 

Wayne Js

Just Hatched
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I wouldn't take his word for facts but for entertainment purposes only. He used to take Oryx numbers as facts for Russian losses, not to mention quote what MSM spews out.
Completely agree. At the beginning of Russian SMO, I watched some of his videos on yt. They were totally in line with the msm narative. I wouldn't trust most of the Chinese msm's stuff on this war. They just keep repeating the translated version of the west msm.
 

supersnoop

Major
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I think this was speculated on previously, but now there is official confirmation that Ukraine has been provided at least 100 of the longer range ATACAMS missile (M39A1 and M57/57E1).

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I don't understand the logic to this other than to prolong the war.

Basically ATACMS was provided in response to North Korean and Iranian BMs being supplied to Russia (ignoring the obvious nonsense about "warning Russia not to use long range missiles" because Iskander and all the other missiles Russia already used for a long time)

What's 100 missiles going to do? Russia has already used many more times that and Ukraine is still standing, so why would the calculus change on the other side?
 
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