Unlike Ukraine, Russia has been dealing with strong fortifications since the beginning. Their strategy is not to try to punch through them. But to bombard them with superior number of artillery and air launched bombs and then advance bit by bit. This is the Russian way that minimizes losses white makes slow but less costly gains
The War in the Ukraine
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Unlike Ukraine, Russia has been dealing with strong fortifications since the beginning. Their strategy is not to try to punch through them. But to bombard them with superior number of artillery and air launched bombs and then advance bit by bit. This is the Russian way that minimizes losses white makes slow but less costly gains
Quality of newly built Ukrainian fortifications are hastily built compared to the Russian built ones and it was evident how the Ukrainians preferred the Russian fortifications they captured in Robotyne over their own. Some of these have returned to the Russian side but still leaving the ones in the north. In fact the battle for Robotyne is never about the village itself which is practically destroyed but all about these fortifications. The hastily built Ukrainian trenches are highly vulnerable to TOS, drone bombings and FPV drone attacks, if not to mud and rats. The better of the Ukrainian made trenches, all built with NATO assistance, were those built between 2014 to 2022, but the majority of them is in a massive belt between Bakhmut, Popasnya, Lisychansk and Severodonetsk, long taken by the Russians.
Another Ukrainian bridge used for logistics is taken out with an X-38ML fired from a Su-34 and lighted by an Orlan-30.
The Tsar Mangal again or the Tank with an Attic.
T-90M shelling shelters occupied by Ukrainian troops across the Dniepr. Such shelters are also used as bases for UAV operators, so taking them out is important. A Russian UAV helps spot these locations.
Lancet takes out a van occupied by Ukrainian UAV operators.
GLSDB is ineffective, blamed for poor handling by the AFU and Russian GPS jamming.
Ukrainian tank in forest plantation wiped out by Krasnopol.
Ukrainians using light aircraft as converted unmanned kamekaze. This one was neutralized by the Russians using EW.
Arty hits on Ukrainian vehicles in Rabotino by the 108th Regiment of the 7th Division.
Iskander strike on an AFU base in Dnipropetrovosk.
Russian flag raised in Solovyovo.
Turtle tank attacking in the industrial sector of Krasnogorovka.
FABs hit Ukrainian deployment points in Chasiv Yar.
The AFU 115th Mechanized Brigade was decimated and deserted it's positions, allowing the Russian 15th and 30th Motorized Rifle Brigades to break through. The 115th just happens to be one of those NATO trained units.
ZALA-16, ZALA-20 and ZALA-24 drones being tested.
Ukrainian MiG-29 first a missile at a Russian UAV from the UAV's point of view.
Russians using fake mortars as decoys.
Su-25 nearly hit this Russian UAV from the UAV's point of view.
From the beginning?
All that green was what Russia had from the beginning of the war there were no fortifications with the exception of Donetsk area
What war are you watching? The "bit by bit" or slow progress is because of Ukraine hammering Russian armored assaults. The Adviivka battle started early October of 2023 starting 2-3kms east of the town and it took the Russians almost six months to finally take the town center itself and have only managed to get 3-4kms west of the town. All this cost them over a division worth of men and armored vehicles and keep getting hammered every time they try to breakthrough. As of now 10-13kms in 6 months from Oct 2023. Same for Bakhmut area and all this happening as Ukraine is supposedly running out of men and ammo.
This is patent bullshit. Even Mediazona's (BBC funded) casualties numbers get nowhere close to that.
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-Russia has suffered more than 13,000 troops killed and wounded and lost more than 220 combat vehicles while fighting near Avdiivka
Here's from pro-Russian blogger who has been in the trenches later committing suicide after posting losses of Russian forces in Adviivka
Some English speaking sites about the blogger
-A Russian military blogger has died in an apparent suicide after facing a barrage of criticism for revealing heavy losses in , and his supporters have blamed Kremlin propagandists for his death.
Andrei Morozov, who also served as a soldier on the front line in Ukraine, said in his last post Wednesday that he decided to “execute” himself to help his comrades in arms avoid fallout from his critical publications, which had angered the military command. Maxim Pashkov, a lawyer who knew him, confirmed Morozov’s death in a messaging app statement, saying that he shot himself dead. Morozov was 44 years old.
Morozov, who went by the nickname Murz, said in a recent post that about 16,000 Russian troops were killed and the military lost about 300 armored vehicles since October when the four-month battle for the eastern stronghold of began. Russian troops captured Avdiivka over the weekend after Ukrainian troops pulled back.
Morozov’s remarks drew angry comments from a top TV show host on Russian state TV and others who called for him to be prosecuted for “discrediting” the military. Several fellow bloggers blamed those who attacked Morozov for his death.
In his last post before killing himself that he posted on his channel in Telegram, Morozov said he was forced by military officials to remove his post about the Russian losses. He harshly criticized the military command for turning a blind eye to losses and ignoring troops’ needs.
Alexander Kofman, head of the Public Chamber in the Moscow-controlled part of the Donetsk region, described Morozov’s suicide as a “huge mistake” in a statement on his messaging app channel.
Morozov’s death came as Russian authorities have become increasingly intolerant ahead of March’s election in which is all but certain to win another six-year term. It also follows chief Kremlin foe ‘s death on Friday in an Arctic prison that caused a global outrage and dealt a heavy blow to the beleaguered Russian opposition.
It goes on and on.
The 300+ armored vehicles is a conservative estimate and it hasn't stopped. Russian assaults to breakout from Adviivka have been stopped and annihilated just adding to the cost from late February. Vuhledar is another battle that has cost Russian forces a divisions worth of men and armored vehicles the same with Bakhmut. All these three are/were frontline towns when Russia decided to take them.
I believe more the Russian bloggers numbers since he claimed was told by the folks in the know.
I believe Ukrainian losses also severely undercounted. Russia outnumbered them in artilleries by 5 to 1 and have been using glide bombs for several months but somehow they still claim to have far fewer casualties compared to Russia in every battle doesn't make sense.
I think at this point trying to pass tendar as a source should count as bait or trying to troll the thread. When the guy isn't outright wrong, he is posting outright inflamatory stuff with no backing and advocating for the mass killing of people.
Ukrainian BMP gets hit by Russian artillery.
M113 gets hit by a 120mm mortar.
LMUR hits a house where six Ukrainian soldiers are hiding in Urozhayne. Followed by other LMUR attacks in other areas.
Krasnopol hits a shelter used by Ukrainian soldiers.
RBK-500 hits Ukrainian positions in Urozhayne.
Grad attack on Ukrainian positions.
Russian cluster munitions hit on Nove near Dniepr.
Russian flag raised in Solovyovo.
Bridge in Mezhove hit by X-38ML and targeted by an Orlan.
FABs hit Ukrainian positions in Spirne.
Krab gets taken out by Lancet from the 238th. Krasnogorovka direction.
BMD-4M firing at Ukrainian positions in the Seversk front.
Rostec has begun supplying a portable radar for detecting drones at very low altitudes.
Flag of the 114th Brigade of the Russian Federation forces is raised on Semenovka. Correction on a previous post, flag of the 15th Brigade of the Russian Federation raised on Solovyovo.
Battles in Chasiv Yar.
Another Ukrainian brigade, the 68th, calls it quits and is packing it in on Ocheretino and sayonara.
Sniping away at Baba Yagas using thermal sights.
Marder gets hit by an FPV drone.
The 55th Guards Brigade also raises it's flag in Solovyovo.
Ukrainian T-72AV tanks captured in Orlovka.
Ukrainian partisans in Odessa, ready to fight for Russia.
FAB landed on Ukrainian temporary headquarters.
Su-34 drops ODAB-500 thermobaric bombs on Ukrainian targets.
FAB hit this Ukrainian headquarters hard in Ugledar.
Successful Russian assault in progress by the 5th Brigade in Krasnogorovka. At the end, the lead Russian tank was disabled by a mine, but the crew evacuated safely. Storm troopers were successfully inserted into the industrial zone of Krasnogorovka. Note the heavily home customized vehicles, this is the brigade that gave birth to the Tsar Barbeque, which appears at the end of the footage, probably led a separate assault.
This Ukrainian T-64BV was knocked out by an ATGM but appears retrievable.
M113 gets hit by a 120mm mortar.
LMUR hits a house where six Ukrainian soldiers are hiding in Urozhayne. Followed by other LMUR attacks in other areas.
Krasnopol hits a shelter used by Ukrainian soldiers.
RBK-500 hits Ukrainian positions in Urozhayne.
Grad attack on Ukrainian positions.
Russian cluster munitions hit on Nove near Dniepr.
Russian flag raised in Solovyovo.
Bridge in Mezhove hit by X-38ML and targeted by an Orlan.
FABs hit Ukrainian positions in Spirne.
Krab gets taken out by Lancet from the 238th. Krasnogorovka direction.
BMD-4M firing at Ukrainian positions in the Seversk front.
Rostec has begun supplying a portable radar for detecting drones at very low altitudes.
Flag of the 114th Brigade of the Russian Federation forces is raised on Semenovka. Correction on a previous post, flag of the 15th Brigade of the Russian Federation raised on Solovyovo.
Battles in Chasiv Yar.
Another Ukrainian brigade, the 68th, calls it quits and is packing it in on Ocheretino and sayonara.
Sniping away at Baba Yagas using thermal sights.
Marder gets hit by an FPV drone.
The 55th Guards Brigade also raises it's flag in Solovyovo.
Ukrainian T-72AV tanks captured in Orlovka.
Ukrainian partisans in Odessa, ready to fight for Russia.
FAB landed on Ukrainian temporary headquarters.
Su-34 drops ODAB-500 thermobaric bombs on Ukrainian targets.
FAB hit this Ukrainian headquarters hard in Ugledar.
Successful Russian assault in progress by the 5th Brigade in Krasnogorovka. At the end, the lead Russian tank was disabled by a mine, but the crew evacuated safely. Storm troopers were successfully inserted into the industrial zone of Krasnogorovka. Note the heavily home customized vehicles, this is the brigade that gave birth to the Tsar Barbeque, which appears at the end of the footage, probably led a separate assault.
This Ukrainian T-64BV was knocked out by an ATGM but appears retrievable.
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Yes, I understand the strategic implications are positive for the US in this case. As long as the Middle East doesn't go out of control (wonder if they gave Iran anything this time around), then you want to bleed the Russians as much as possible with a proxy.
Should be used to it by now (after Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc.), but listening to these politicians is vomit inducing