The War in the Ukraine

Anlsvrthng said:

Most likelly the CIA had information about the equipment they used to detect explosive, and a group of engineers had overtime somwehere in the USA to find ways to hide explosive device from it.


Only way to stop this kind of attacks is to increase the cost of the USA to do so .

Which forecast incteresting options for Russia.

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I agree. The bridge structure is well reinforced, the Russians foresaw the danger of hitting its supports, and to avoid such incidents they must have installed special bollards made of reinforced concrete, sheet piles and stones.

The only question now is how much it will cost and how long it will take for the repair to complete, and I highly doubt Ukraine will stop now. Attacking the Crimean bridge was always a considerable desire to humiliate the Russian political and military leadership, now they have succeeded, in addition to impacting on the logistical reinforcement of Kherson and Zaporizhzhya.

Kherson will fall perhaps even before the 15th of November.

Anlsvrthng said:

Most likelly the CIA had information about the equipment they used to detect explosive, and a group of engineers had overtime somwehere in the USA to find ways to hide explosive device from it.


Only way to stop this kind of attacks is to increase the cost of the USA to do so .

Which forecast incteresting options for Russia.

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There's no reason to claim the CIA to be behind it. Ukrainians are as radicalised as ISIS, it's not hard to imagine one loading up a truck and blowing themselves up. Even if they were we both know at this stage the Russians aren't going to do anything about it. Western terrorists were caught red handed and sentenced to death yet were freed so one of Putin's friends could have some positive PR in the west.

Russians need to acknowledge that they are losing this war fighting it as a "special military operation". Start treating the Ukrainians like the Americans treated Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Russia has had multiple chances to do so, the torture of Russian POWs, that girl who was executed, and so on.

No one likes to back a loser, and Russia's support from other nations comes on the assumption they will win. Even the nuclear threat is starting to lose its credibility. If Putin is afraid to kill a few million Ukrainians how seriously do you think Americans will take his threat to end humanity?

According to Russian Telegram channels "Rybar" and "Colonelcassad", the railway track on the Crimean Bridge is not severely affected and traffic will soon be able to resume on it.

Automatic translation:

The first trains on the Crimean bridge will go by 20:00 Moscow time, the Ministry of Transport reported.

It's a good news. If the damage to the railway part of the Crimean bridge turned out to be not as significant as it looked on the video, then this reduces the effect of the explosion on the Crimean bridge in terms of a blow to the logistics and supply of the peninsula and military units.

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According to the statement of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, 3 people died in the explosion on the Crimean bridge. The driver of the truck and two people in the car that was overtaking the truck at the time of the explosion.

Sinnavuuty said:

From the air, the bridge is continuously guarded by the Tor, Pantsir, Buk-M2 and S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems. To avoid threats from land and sea, a separate naval brigade was formed in the Kerch Strait, as well as 100 aircraft permanently based in Crimea that are likely to be in full readiness.

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So, this tight protection can't protect this bridge?
The front line of Russia collapsed overnight, and both the front and the rear were hit. I always thought the COD story was a complete American delusion, but the Russian incompetence seems to be making that story a fact.

But it also makes me think that Ukrainians have become unscrupulous. The use of car bombs has made SBU a de facto terrorist. The CIA could be the mastermind behind this.

So if it was indeed a suicide bombing, then those security guards that defend the bridge are just pathetic. In order to produce such a strong explosion, the truck would have to be filled with several tons of explosives - likely, the whole hull was full of them. So how did it get through undetected? Inb4, "another 5D chess by Putin who wants to scare Russian population and declare the war".

kokole said:

The very fact that Russia turned to Iran for help and received that help (drones) shows that this arrogance of the Russians you speak of is overblown.

And the Russians are not spitting on Iranian drones, on the contrary, they appreciate Iran's help.

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Russia did not turn to Iran for help and it doesn't use Shahed-136 drones. It uses Geran-2, a fully indigenous weapon exactly like this fully indigenous robodog

xypher said:

So if it was indeed a suicide bombing, then those security guards that defend the bridge are just pathetic. In order to produce such a strong explosion, the truck would have to be filled with several tons of explosives - likely, the whole hull was full of them. So how did it get through undetected?

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5 kopeks.

Inb4, "another 5D chess by Putin who wants to scare Russian population and declare the war".

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Who is this 5D crap addressed to? Nobody talks like that here. The entire thread is dunking on Russia.

They are forcing Russia more and more into a corner.. this will not end well. I am worried for the whole world, now. these targeted attacks: generals, gas pipelines, moskva, bridge, nuclear plant... these are not military but political targets.

So the Ukranians are fully embracing the jihadi aspect of NATO's training. Already nailed down the prisoner execution, collective punishment of towns, head cutting, rushing with technicals, drones with grenades and now massive IED's which also kills civilians.

This will probably trigger the change of status of "Special Military Operation" to an Anti-Terrorist one with Zelensky finally being fair game. And if it doesn't then the Russians do indeed deserve to lose this war for not taking this seriosly enough.

On the other hand, being a bit of devil's advocate, this could also be a false flag similar to the ones set up in 1999 and launched the Second Chechen War which they eventually won.

Edit: Nevermind, I just saw Zelensky admiting to it. Dude is probably already in Poland.

And more talk about this Surovikin guy from Rybar, about the guy being a hardliner "no retreats, no surgical strikes, obliterate everything" type

sheogorath said:

Edit: Nevermind, I just saw Zelensky admiting to it. Dude is probably already in Poland.

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Why would he be in Poland? He was in Kyiv when Russian forces were closing onto the capital, now the frontline is in the far eastern part of Ukraine.