The War in the Ukraine

pmc

Major
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Looks like there have been backdoor negotiations.

This isn't a good look for Russia. Westerners can come to your country and commit terrorist acts against your people and they get a free holiday in a 5 star Gulf Arab hotel.
If they are alive they most likely cannon fodder. Saudis have preference for West. so better get some brownie points in public. I read there was Moroccan also in it. with Arab support Russia can practically rule world.
 

gelgoog

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If there is anyone who will use nukes in Ukraine it will be NATO. Just like they planned to use nukes in Germany back in the Cold War.
Back then the plan was that when the Warsaw Pact concentrated forces to do a city assault, they would just nuke the city and kill both the civilians and the Warsaw Pact troops. The US had plans to do this, and so did France.

Russia will not be using nukes right next to their border. They can continue escalating conventionally if they want to. They can do carpet bombing for example and thus far they have refrained from doing it.
 

Abominable

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If they are alive they most likely cannon fodder. Saudis have preference for West. so better get some brownie points in public. I read there was Moroccan also in it. with Arab support Russia can practically rule world.
If Russia wants to let the Moroccan to improve relations with the Arab world fine, but do you think anything will change by freeing the westerners? Russia will still be demonised.

Whatever promises were made privately by the west will be broken, mark my words. The mercenaries that were freed will all talk about how terrible their detention was. Even though they were pampered and treated better than Ukrainian soldiers, they will act like they were in Guantanamo bay.
 

Dragon of War

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America to hit Russia's military with "Devastating Strike" if Putin nukes Ukraine says Former US General Christopher G. Cavoli. Lieutenant General Ben Hodges says any response by America will not be nuclear, but if Russia nukes Ukraine the US would destroy the black sea fleet or Russian bases in Crimea. Putin says "If there is a threat to the territorial integrity of our country, and in protecting our people we will certainly use all means to us - and I'm not bluffing,'. Biden commented on the matter stating "Any use of strategic weapons of mass destruction would be met with a swift and severe reaction".


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tankphobia

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Do we have any idea whether Russia is going to shift industrial production as part of its mobilization? They do have a dire need for more pgms/guided missiles for use on the front.
 
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