The War in the Ukraine

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Tam

Brigadier
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BlackWindMnt said:
Also Musk donated a lot of starlink dishes for communication so i'm sure the damage on the military and troll farm side would be minimal. Hell wasn't there a report that pro Ukrainian accounts are being boosted by mostly bots. This report should help musk in his lawsuit against his twitter bid.
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That's used by the military, not by the trolls. Given that I would expect the arrays would have attrition I don't expect they would be giving them to the public. Those antennas could be in risk of being detected by ESM and pinpointed to their location for artillery bombardment, so radio silence should be the wiser.
 
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Pmichael

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NATO is providing Ukraine a full nonstop SIGINT and IMINT coverage, all those ammo storages locations were provided by NATO. Russian forces used civilian communication, whops, SIGINT platforms found a new potential target. This is maybe the biggest difference between NATO and the rest of the world.
 
Broccoli

Broccoli

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BoraTas said:
Medvedev is calling for a larger air campaign and doubling of the committed forces too. The pressure on Putin is increasing. This war is a failure in its current form. I think the lack of Russian Army personnel in Kharkiv makes things look worse if real. How can you not have soldiers (I mean real soldiers, not police or hastily trained militia) in such a large piece of occupied territory?
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Because they've been dying (for the area they lost in few days) in droves so when you minus +50k casualties from +200.000 force your gonna see it effect on fighting capabilities.
 
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Anlsvrthng

Captain
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plawolf said:
Hitting civilian communications infrastructure doesn’t have much military benefit. If the enemy is reduced to using civilian networks, they got far bigger problems. Keeping the civilian communications intact is above all else to allow effective governance of newly captured territories. How do you expect to govern people if you cannot talk to them?

Similar deal with power. Cut the power and civilians will start to leave. In areas that are overwhelmingly pro-Russia, where do you think that civilian population can go? Through the front lines fighting east to further west?
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It can be one reason - to attack the supply lanes effectivly, they need to make darknes and quite ,without radio emissions.

Anything left emitting radios signal, moving on the roads and similar is a military vehicle.
 
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Pmichael

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Anlsvrthng said:
Failed vehicles.

The eningeering vehicle visible has disconected/disassembled hydraulic, the fuel truck missing the batteries.

Most likelly the other machines has similar issues.
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Compare that to the abandoned Abrams and other vehicles in Desert Storm, we are seeing a lack of discipline and/or time to properly destroy abandoned vehicles and equipment.
 
Broccoli

Broccoli

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plawolf said:
Russia’s response is to not try to win this militarily, but economically.

Right now, they don’t need to win on the battlefield, they just need to not loose.

Keep up the pressure and attrition NATO weapons and ammo as fast as NATO can pump them into Ukraine while keeping its own combat losses, especially manpower, down as low as possible; while starving the Euros of energy and wait for the EU to collapse into internal chaos and infighting and/or stab Ukraine in the back to end the war before it ends their economies.

That is why Russia is taking its sweet time advancing, yet quick to withdraw and abandon equipment in favour of saving their troops’ lives whenever it looks like the Ukrainians might force them into a fair or even disadvantaged fight.

This is also why NATO had the Ukrainians make these crazy hailmarry offensives, to try to end the war before winter hits and the full economic damage is done. It’s also why all the crazies are coming out of the woodworks to suggest invading Russia itself. Someone is envious of Russia’s oil and gas fields again. That’s what the Ukraine gambit was all about from the start. Although it’s turned on it’s head where the Russians are absolutely crushing the economics war while massively underperforming on the battlefield while NATO is now desperate for an impossible lightning victory to stave off economic disaster.
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People told me about six months ago that Russia is going to win by military force and this just demilitarization of Ukraine. Cauldrons and all that stuff... remember? But now when Russians military is running away it's suddenly about winning economically. Russia has lost 2/3 of it's export economy, so i'm not sure what they are winning, sure as hell aren't winning on battlefield, and if we look figures they are losing even worse economically. That's why Russiand and their shills are whining about sanctions.

"Of course Russia is a superpower. This war gonna last few weeks".

"They never wanted Kyiv. It was a feint".

"Snake Island? We'll Russia never needed it anyhow".

"They never wanted Odessa. it was a Feint".

"They never really wanted Kharkiv. It was a feint".


Fact is that Russians are right now hitting at Ukrainian civilian infra (again) because second/third third rate military cannot get any victories on battlefield, well, they took a hill yesterday.
 
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