The War in the Ukraine

FriedButter

Major
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Just how many Russian soldiers are actually in Ukraine anyway. Initial estimates was a 200,000 force buildup but as evident in the last few months. The vast majority of the fighting is being conducted by the Militia with Russian SF sprinkled into it while the Russians mostly sat as support rolls. You don’t need 10s of 1000s of troops to lob artillery shells anyway. We know there are DPR units in Kherson alongside the Russians but if there were enough Russians then there wouldn’t be any need for DPR units there.
 

delta115

Junior Member
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Or maybe Putin himself doesn’t have as much power as we think he does.

That why I don't think it's all on Putin but all Russian leader. I would not be surprise if some Russian elite are prevent heavy hand approach due to bribery or hope they can get their confiscate oversea assets back.

I hypothesized that Russia intentional still keeping the infrastructure intact is for that in the future unconditional surrender of Ukraine the reconstruction would be minimised

No one gonna surrender unconditionaly with all their infrastructure intact, Russia deserve to be humuliate if they believe that BS.
 

delta115

Junior Member
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Just how many Russian soldiers are actually in Ukraine anyway. Initial estimates was a 200,000 force buildup but as evident in the last few months. The vast majority of the fighting is being conducted by the Militia with Russian SF sprinkled into it while the Russians mostly sat as support rolls. You don’t need 10s of 1000s of troops to lob artillery shells anyway. We know there are DPR units in Kherson alongside the Russians but if there were enough Russians then there wouldn’t be any need for DPR units there.

There are speculation about units that return home a months ago weren't actually rotated. They just return, some of them might even participate in Vostok exercise. If that true then Russian units in Ukraine are probably small.

Come to think of it, during siege of Mariupol. We seen a lot of Russian Marines footage then after that they never be seen or have a reported of their activities again.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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I hypothesized that Russia intentional still keeping the infrastructure intact is for that in the future unconditional surrender of Ukraine the reconstruction would be minimised
yeah but at least cut electricity and gas service to Ukrainian occupied regions! That doesn't need any bombing, just disconnect their service.

Russian pipelines in Ukraine are still delivering gas.

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plawolf

Lieutenant General
I'm actually surprised that Russia hasn't taken out the communications infrastructure on day 1. Why would they allow all these ukrainian locals to post videos for viral and grassroots effect on twitter?

How much ground has the Twitter battalions taken for Ukraine again? However, there have been many instances where idiot Redditors doxed Ukrainian troops hiding in schools and supermarkets that directly led to said troops getting deleted by Russian artillery and cruise missiles.

Hitting civilian communications infrastructure doesn’t have much military benefit. If the enemy is reduced to using civilian networks, they got far bigger problems. Keeping the civilian communications intact is above all else to allow effective governance of newly captured territories. How do you expect to govern people if you cannot talk to them?

Similar deal with power. Cut the power and civilians will start to leave. In areas that are overwhelmingly pro-Russia, where do you think that civilian population can go? Through the front lines fighting east to further west?

Russia’s strategy was sound. NATO’s resources and military inventories are finite. Hit them in warehouses and as they move up to the front and eventually NATO will run out of spares they can send without degrading the combat effectiveness of its own troops.

Where the Russian strategy failed is the Russian air forces’ inability to condition deep strike and interdiction against these NATO supply shipments and Ukrainian troop formations over most of Ukraine.

That meant Russia could only effectively strike at warehousing and similar static targets, and were probably finding it harder and harder to find such juicy targets over time as Ukraine started to learn from its earlier mistakes and stopped placing arms caches in urban and obvious places.

That meant Ukraine was able to amass equipment and troops relatively safely to launch major offensives.

Had the Russian Air Force properly invested in a balanced force with proper support equipment and meaningful precision strike inventories, the recent setbacks would never have happened.

I suspect the Iranian drop deal, if it is real, would be an attempt to bandaid this problem. Whereby Russia would be able to start doing deep strikes and supply train interdicts deep in Ukrainian territory with these expendable drones rather than send more flankers to their needless deaths trying to do SEAD and DEAD without the right gear.
 

Tam

Brigadier
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I'm actually surprised that Russia hasn't taken out the communications infrastructure on day 1. Why would they allow all these ukrainian locals to post videos for viral and grassroots effect on twitter?

They got silenced when their power is cut off. An unexpected result.

Its harder to find out where the internet routers are, and they are much smaller targets. Likely to be Huawei stuff.

Another reason is that the Russians have been using the infrastructure to their advantage. Their EW or ESM allows them to pinpoint where the Ukrainians are by their cellphone signals. That's used for artillery targeting.
 

BlackWindMnt

Captain
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They got silenced when their power is cut off. An unexpected result.

Its harder to find out where the internet routers are, and they are much smaller targets. Likely to be Huawei stuff.

Another reason is that the Russians have been using the infrastructure to their advantage. Their EW or ESM allows them to pinpoint where the Ukrainians are by their cellphone signals. That's used for artillery targeting.
Also Musk donated a lot of starlink dishes for communication so i'm sure the damage on the military and troll farm side would be minimal. Hell wasn't there a report that pro Ukrainian accounts are being boosted by mostly bots. This report should help musk in his lawsuit against his twitter bid.
 

tankphobia

Senior Member
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I'm actually surprised that Russia hasn't taken out the communications infrastructure on day 1. Why would they allow all these ukrainian locals to post videos for viral and grassroots effect on twitter?
You also should consider the large amount of satellite communications equipment donated by the west such as truckloads of starlinks, Russia would run out of anti radiation missiles before they can take out all that commercially manufactured comms equipment.
 
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