Any particular reason?
The War in the Ukraine
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Any particular reason?
Broccoli
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Broccoli
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That evidence for thousands of dead Ukrainians soldiers? Russians also claimed they retreated in orderly fashion despite the fact that internet is full videos and pictures of abandoned Russian military hardware.
The gas turbine engines are manufactured by Klimov in Russia, and there aren't enough T-80's around the world where NATO could procure spare parts from.
Best they can aspire to is to canibalize them to put a few of them together which will have to be abandoned once they break down.
Epic fail from the Russian side in Kharkov, I laugh every time I see some one saying the Russian withdrawal in Kharkov is some 5D chess move from the Russians.
The Ukrainians have said they will punish all civilians in the newly captured territories who collaborated with the Russians.
When a military withdraws leaving it's civilians to the vultures then that is not some 5D chess move, that is just soldiers running away because they were faced with overwhelming enemy forces.
The Ukrainians have said they will punish all civilians in the newly captured territories who collaborated with the Russians.
When a military withdraws leaving it's civilians to the vultures then that is not some 5D chess move, that is just soldiers running away because they were faced with overwhelming enemy forces.
The instances of ukranians using T-80's are very very very limited in relation to the alleged amount of captured tanks
Also, they haven't built T-80's in a long ass time, the last being T-80UD sent to Pakistan, which were already built hulls and were forced to build new turrets for them as Russia refused to provided the required cast turrets.
And a few T-84 which they had to sell to the US to get money.
It is why Ukraine relies on the T-64's. They still can build those and have plenty of them in storage too.
Contrary to popular belief, the T-80 isn't an ukranian tank nor it is their design.
Yes, I saw after you posted. It seems that I was away for a while and now the initiative has been taken by Ukraine on the axis of Kharkiv/Slovyansk and also now Lysychansk. I'll take a while to update myself, there are 50 pages to read hahahaha, the topic here is booming.
As I have now seen the general situation on Twitter I know well what happened, but I had already talked about it days ago, although I potentially underestimated the AFU (as everyone did, including the pro-Ukrainians themselves):
The War in the Ukraine
you know. This tank was offered to Indonesia some years ago. Huh very interesting, from what year it was offered btw?
www.sinodefenceforum.com
Now I'm going to read the 50 pages to find out what happened.
This have been in my mind for a while and I want to say that civilian evacuation and support is one of the most overlooked aspect of the war by Russia, and may make the entire operation a complete failure even if they managed to recapture all those territories or complete whatever military objective they have in mind.
What is Russia going to do with the territories afterwards when all the supporting civilians are either dead or not in numbers enough to sustain the settlement? Permanently station their troops there to guard the territory against NATO and whatever's left of Ukraine, draining their military resources? Even after the war, they'll still need to keep watch of the terrorist operations that will certainly be conducted by the opposing forces against the newly annexed territory.
They were selling T-84's as recently as 2017 to Thailand.
Part for the gas turbine might be an issue on the Russian T-80's, but Ukraine is no stranger to turbine technology.