The War in the Ukraine

Temstar

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Rybar confirms that the AFU attacked Balakliya(city). The AFU is also moving towards Shevchenkove (according to RVvoenkor). Still with RVvoenkor, Russian units are transferring reserves to this front. In fact, yesterday it was said that the Russians used strategic bombers on that axis, this can be expanded to make attacks in order to compromise the AFU's advance. As confirmed by Russian TL channels, it appears that the offensive is now now in Kharkiv, it was even quoted that the AFU General Staff may have given the order to transfer reserves to Kharkiv leaving Kherson in the background due to the massive losses that occurred in that region.
The move towards Stevchenkove has already failed by some accounts:
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Rybar think the salient is much wider, here's their take:
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Might be a timing thing between when the two maps were generated. Latest word is that AFU has invested 9000 men into this offensive and are taking a lot of losses.
It is reported from Kharkov that a column of ambulances has lined up in the city. During the counter-offensive in the Izyum-Kupyansk direction, the formations of the Ukrainian regime suffer significant losses in manpower.
It does remind me of that "Penis of Kherson". Let's see how it plays out.
 

Atomicfrog

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So they packed up their picnic and gone east a bit ?
The move towards Stevchenkove has already failed by some accounts:
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Rybar think the salient is much wider, here's their take:
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Might be a timing thing between when the two maps were generated. Latest word is that AFU has invested 9000 men into this offensive and are taking a lot of losses.

It does remind me of that "Penis of Kherson". Let's see how it plays out.
The past week make me think of Russian forces acting like a static Pacman that open is mouth and close it when it's full... Villages on the front lines are rubble anyway, they are near useless to hide troops. So they are perfect bait when you open the door for forces to go in for a quick victory and a nice mouth full of Ukrainians.
 
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Shadow_Whomel

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The move towards Stevchenkove has already failed by some accounts:
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Rybar think the salient is much wider, here's their take:
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Might be a timing thing between when the two maps were generated. Latest word is that AFU has invested 9000 men into this offensive and are taking a lot of losses.

It does remind me of that "Penis of Kherson". Let's see how it plays out.
The situation in Kharkov is not good for Russia, and the Russian Defense Ministry's routine briefing at noon today did not mention the situation near Kharkov, as the Russians surely would have if there was any good news. Photos show that the Ukrainians have seized three T72-B3s, a BTR4E, and suspected Ural trucks of the Russian National Guard in the Ukrainian Army's 65th ammunition depot in Baraklia in the Kharkov area. The Russians really should stop groping and need to invest more manpower. The collapse in Baraklia was exactly the same as the situation in Kherson, where the positions of the East Ukrainian militia were penetrated. The only Russian forces of their own deployed in the area were reportedly the National Guard and special forces.

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Abominable

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A few months ago the Ukrainians launched a counter offensive against Russian forces near the city. They managed to push them back to the Russian border, and the Ukraine flags on twitter were talking about taking Russian territory...

Then reality struck and they got massacred by air strikes and artillery bombardment, whatever remained withdrew back to Kharkov. The same will happen here, Ukrainians can't survive without their human shields.
 

Broccoli

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Russian defensive lines collapsing suggests that they dont have enough raw manpower to hold areas and their lines are very thin. If you cannot put troops on the ground artillery strikes are useless as Russians cannot take advantage and move forwards.

Girking predicted that Russia will lose without general mobilization.
 

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The Washington Post: Wounded Ukrainian soldiers reveal steep toll of Kherson offensive

SOUTHERN UKRAINE — In dimly lit hospital rooms in southern Ukraine, soldiers with severed limbs, shrapnel wounds, mangled hands and shattered joints recounted the lopsided disadvantages their units faced in the early days of a new offensive to expel Russian forces from the strategic city of Kherson.

The soldiers said they lacked the artillery needed to dislodge Russia’s entrenched forces and described a yawning technology gap with their better-equipped adversaries. The interviews provided some of the first direct accounts of a push to retake captured territory that is so sensitive, Ukrainian military commanders have barred reporters from visiting the front lines.

“They used everything on us,” said Denys, a 33-year-old Ukrainian soldier whose unit fell back from a Russian-held village after a lengthy barrage of cluster bombs, phosphorous munitions and mortars. “Who can survive an attack for five hours like that?” he said.

Denys and eight other Ukrainian soldiers from seven different units provided rare descriptions of the Kherson counteroffensive in the south, the most ambitious military operation by Kyiv since the expulsion of Russian forces at the perimeter of the capital in the spring. As in the battle for Kyiv, Ukraine’s success is hardly assured and the soldiers’ accounts signaled that a long fight, and many more casualties, lie ahead.

“We lost five people for every one they did,” said Ihor, a 30-year-old platoon commander who injured his back when the tank he was riding in crashed into a ditch.

Ihor had no military experience before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24. He made a living selling animal feed to pig and cow farms. His replacement as platoon commander also has no previous military experience, he said.

The soldiers were interviewed on gurneys and wheelchairs as they recovered from injuries sustained in last week’s offensive. Some spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid disciplinary action. Others, like Denys and Ihor, agreed to reveal only their first names. But most spoke plainly about the disadvantages they faced.

Russia’s Orlan drones exposed Ukrainian positions from more than a kilometer above their heads, they said, an altitude that meant they never heard the buzz of the aircraft tracking their movements.

Russian tanks emerged from newly built cement fortifications to blast infantry with large-caliber artillery, the wounded Ukrainian soldiers said. The vehicles would then shrink back beneath the concrete shelters, shielded from mortar and rocket fire.

Counter-battery radar systems automatically detected and located Ukrainians who were targeting the Russians with projectiles, unleashing a barrage of artillery fire in response.

Russian hacking tools hijacked the drones of Ukrainian operators, who saw their aircraft drift away helplessly behind enemy lines.

Ukraine has discouraged coverage of the offensive, resulting in an information lag on a potentially pivotal inflection point in the nearly seven-month conflict.

Oleksandr, a 28-year-old former construction worker, lost his arm in a mortar blast during the counteroffensive last week. He winced with phantom pain in his hospital bed on Sunday, saying he felt a sting from the fingers and hand that were no longer connected to his body.

Oleksandr said the Russian artillery fire was relentless. “They were just hitting us all the time,” he said. “If we fire three mortars, they fire 20 in return.”

The Ukrainian soldiers said they had to carefully ration their use of munitions but even when they did fire, they had trouble hitting targets. “When you give the coordinates, it’s supposed to be accurate but it’s not,” he said, noting that his equipment dated back to 1989.

Russian electronic warfare also posed a constant threat. Soldiers described ending their shifts and turning on their phones to call or text family members — a decision that immediately drew Russian artillery fire.
“When we turn on mobile phones or radio, they can recognize our presence immediately,” said Denys. “And then the shooting starts.”
 

Atomicfrog

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The Washington Post: Wounded Ukrainian soldiers reveal steep toll of Kherson offensive

SOUTHERN UKRAINE — In dimly lit hospital rooms in southern Ukraine, soldiers with severed limbs, shrapnel wounds, mangled hands and shattered joints recounted the lopsided disadvantages their units faced in the early days of a new offensive to expel Russian forces from the strategic city of Kherson.

The soldiers said they lacked the artillery needed to dislodge Russia’s entrenched forces and described a yawning technology gap with their better-equipped adversaries. The interviews provided some of the first direct accounts of a push to retake captured territory that is so sensitive, Ukrainian military commanders have barred reporters from visiting the front lines.

“They used everything on us,” said Denys, a 33-year-old Ukrainian soldier whose unit fell back from a Russian-held village after a lengthy barrage of cluster bombs, phosphorous munitions and mortars. “Who can survive an attack for five hours like that?” he said.

Denys and eight other Ukrainian soldiers from seven different units provided rare descriptions of the Kherson counteroffensive in the south, the most ambitious military operation by Kyiv since the expulsion of Russian forces at the perimeter of the capital in the spring. As in the battle for Kyiv, Ukraine’s success is hardly assured and the soldiers’ accounts signaled that a long fight, and many more casualties, lie ahead.

“We lost five people for every one they did,” said Ihor, a 30-year-old platoon commander who injured his back when the tank he was riding in crashed into a ditch.

Ihor had no military experience before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24. He made a living selling animal feed to pig and cow farms. His replacement as platoon commander also has no previous military experience, he said.

The soldiers were interviewed on gurneys and wheelchairs as they recovered from injuries sustained in last week’s offensive. Some spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid disciplinary action. Others, like Denys and Ihor, agreed to reveal only their first names. But most spoke plainly about the disadvantages they faced.

Russia’s Orlan drones exposed Ukrainian positions from more than a kilometer above their heads, they said, an altitude that meant they never heard the buzz of the aircraft tracking their movements.

Russian tanks emerged from newly built cement fortifications to blast infantry with large-caliber artillery, the wounded Ukrainian soldiers said. The vehicles would then shrink back beneath the concrete shelters, shielded from mortar and rocket fire.

Counter-battery radar systems automatically detected and located Ukrainians who were targeting the Russians with projectiles, unleashing a barrage of artillery fire in response.

Russian hacking tools hijacked the drones of Ukrainian operators, who saw their aircraft drift away helplessly behind enemy lines.

Ukraine has discouraged coverage of the offensive, resulting in an information lag on a potentially pivotal inflection point in the nearly seven-month conflict.

Oleksandr, a 28-year-old former construction worker, lost his arm in a mortar blast during the counteroffensive last week. He winced with phantom pain in his hospital bed on Sunday, saying he felt a sting from the fingers and hand that were no longer connected to his body.

Oleksandr said the Russian artillery fire was relentless. “They were just hitting us all the time,” he said. “If we fire three mortars, they fire 20 in return.”

The Ukrainian soldiers said they had to carefully ration their use of munitions but even when they did fire, they had trouble hitting targets. “When you give the coordinates, it’s supposed to be accurate but it’s not,” he said, noting that his equipment dated back to 1989.

Russian electronic warfare also posed a constant threat. Soldiers described ending their shifts and turning on their phones to call or text family members — a decision that immediately drew Russian artillery fire.
“When we turn on mobile phones or radio, they can recognize our presence immediately,” said Denys. “And then the shooting starts.”
Poor guys doesnt know that the offensive in Kherson costing more than 10 000 Ukrainian soldiers death was just a diversion to capture Balakliya south of Kharkov.

They nailed it big time out there they even got 3 pow and are in the viccinity of the city for more than 3 hours.

That advance for recapturing Izhium is a total victory ! It's so obvious that they are trying big time to turn attention to elsewhere.
 
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