China can keep things secret. The Russians clearly have a problem with corruption and many people will talk to the enemy for money. It's the Russian traitors who will tell the West if China helps Russia directly. So it's better only to supply them after a ceasefire.
The War in the Ukraine
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I'm been looking for when Shoigu will next appear in public to see if there's any truth in this, well:
Doesn't seem like he's fired to me. Looks like the three of them are in pretty good mood in fact.
Confirmed by members of the Zelensky government themselves.
Honestly I think the story of the UAVs sold to Russia is even more true when it was confirmed that Iran will receive the Su-35s previously purchased by Egypt.
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plawolf
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When it comes to lethal weapons/munitions from China, Russia is too proud to ask, and China is too practical to offer.
Given that this is a real fight and not a cakewalk against a hopelessly outmatch opponent, we have already had many real life examples of covert weapons and munitions supplies being rumbled due to battlefield captures. The latest example are shells from Pakistan going to Ukraine.
If China were to supply Russia with inventory shells, it will only be a matter of time until they are similarly exposed.
Well, at least when it comes to stuff that’s easily identifiable as new and Chinese. I would not be surprised if China has already sent back a lot of the Krasnopol shells and PGMs they purchased from Russia, for ‘routine maintenance’ of course. If the Russians discovers some sort of ‘defect or issue’ with those stocks, and very generously decided to dispose of those old stocks and refund China, or provide newly manufactured replacements many years down the line, well I’m sure China will be very grateful. And if those shells and missiles/bombs should find their way to Ukraine, well firstly, good luck proving it. And even if it can be proven that these were originally sold to China, well China has all the paperwork to prove they were sent back to Russia to be safely disposed of, and are just as shocked that the Russians didn’t do as they promised!
What China could also do is maybe similar to what NATO are offering former Warsaw Pact member countries to replace whatever soviet era stuff they send with newly manufactured replacements. So China can help Russia indirectly by sending on replacement stocks to NK (much less likely in the case of Iran, at least until they normalise relations with the Saudis and rest of the ME) to allow NK to export much of their current and older inventories.
Although all of these ‘reports’ just seems to be minimally changed copy pasta of all the other stories we have been bombarded with since the very start of this war about how the Russians are supposed to be running low on everything from men to tanks to PGMs to cruise missiles to washing machines. I will believe it once I see Iranian drones and NK MLRS confirmed on the battlefields of Ukraine.
The only thing that will make it true is the UAV spotted on the battlefield or flying from Russian bases/controlled area.
Great punishment to the invaders
The Russian "good will" allows the liberation of zones
There is talk of another Ukrainian offensive, the Russians flee to Balakleya out of "good will"
The Russian "good will" allows the liberation of zones
There is talk of another Ukrainian offensive, the Russians flee to Balakleya out of "good will"
I agree. But everything indicates that the story is true. It might not be, but there's a clear indication that it might be true.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Something that struck me is just how bad soldiers on both sides are at shooting down very low flying drones, an example being below, where they even tried to use a stinger on it!
I just took it for granted professional soldiers would know you need to adjust your aim when shooting virtually!
Below is a very good video on the kind of adjustments you should be making on case anyone is interested.
I just took it for granted professional soldiers would know you need to adjust your aim when shooting virtually!
Below is a very good video on the kind of adjustments you should be making on case anyone is interested.
Let's have a thought experiment...
According to your article, Putin offers to return to Feb 23rd borders in Donbass/Crimea in exchange for non-NATO alignment formalized into a 'neutrality treaty', and Ukraine to receive 'security guarantees from a number of nations.' (Budapest memorandum 2.0?)
The first part on non-NATO membership is an expected condition....primary reason the S.M.O. was started.... but second part on 'security guarantees from number of nations' sounds like a repeat of, which was legally non-binding commitment on Ukrainian sovereignty guarantees in exchange for giving up nuclear weapons, backed by US, UK, and Russia after Soviet collapse.
I find it terribly naïve to expect a "Budapest memorandum 2.0" given how Budapest memorandum 1.0 went, esp. without US and UK support. That sounds like a flimsy interim tentative agreement to drag out negotiations and give Ukraine some breathing room, it had no realistic chance of occurring. However, perhaps Putin can use oil/gas to force Europeans to reconsider a Budapest Memo. 2.0 with beefier guarantees and legally-binding version.
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