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Just like the Ukrainian 128th Mountain Assault Brigade?
The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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Just like the Ukrainian 128th Mountain Assault Brigade?
I heard nothing about PT-91 Twardy deliveries. There were like 200 Polish T-72M1 which are upgraded T-72M's and some 100 Czech, Slovenian, whatever T-72M tanks. Like 300 total. PT-91 Twardy is part of Poland's main tank backbone together with Leopard 2PL and it would be basically leaving NATO Europe wide open if they removed those tanks from service. But. Who knows. I have seen dumber things in this conflict.
Look, Afghanistan was combat against poorly equipped infantry. And Iraq had several months pre-positioning of equipment and a huge, and I mean huge, coalition set up. If you mean Iraq 2003 then that was an invasion after a decade of sanctions. You had the US pissing its pants at a couple RPG-29s thinking they were the Metis-M or Kornet. I still remember this thing man. Had Russia or China given Iraq thousands upon thousands of most modern ATGM and MANPADS and late Soviet era systems like S-300, then we can talk.
Right. Just like on WW2 they are losing lots of tanks. So they must be losing right? Except Russia has even more tanks. Even more tanks. More.
Look, Georgia and Ukraine have been under the US thumb for yonks. They sent troops into Iraq 2003 with US when even Germany didn't want to. Georgia had been trained to NATO standards and had its tanks upgraded with thermal sights. They were overkill for poorly equiped Abkhaz and Ossetian insurgents. They still lost. And back then Russia's army was like nothing compared with today. It is just a tiny country. Ukraine is largest country in Europe next to Russia.
Hah. Ukraine had US funded and sponsored coup d'etat in 2014. Russia intervened and captured Crimea. Insurgents in LNR and DNR, regions who majorly voted for former Ukrainian President, had insurgencies. There was a deal struck granting them autonomy and Ukraine failed to keep their end of the deal. Now shut it.
If Ukraine was independent, explain Ms. Victoria Nuland's F the EU video. Or how the Ukrainian gold reserves left on airplanes to the US right after the coup? You sure are naive. Which country in its right mind would exchange Russia, a country which was 40-50% of Ukrainian trade, with the EU association agreement, which was a piece of paper promising little, but which made them unable to continue even existing highly favorable bilateral trade deal with Russia, because joining association agreement meant you joined EU trade block policy without voting powers in EU proper? Do you know anything about how trade deals and trade blocks work?
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This VDV unit is in the area where the 128th was annihilated, so they maybe one of the units responsible for the 128th's destruction, if not the one most responsible for doing this. Perhaps that's why they are attracting the Ukrainians ire. However the unit positions have clear lines of retreat and reinforcement, and the front there has already stabilized.
Interesting footage of T-72B3M / B4. It's roughly on par with M1A2 / Type 99A2.
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Nah it's on par with Type-96B, seen as they compete together at Tank Biathlon. If Russians allowed it I'm sure PLA would rather bring Type-99A to compete.
It's not surprisingly to me that they're sending those competition tanks to the front, what is surprisingly is that they bothered to hold Tank Biathlon this year at all.
You must be shouting at the wrong person.
Russia still have plenty of jets and helicopters in Syria. Sitting around not doing anything there. Russia isn't taking this war seriously.
If I were commanding the Russian forces, fighting in this area must be my wet dream. Enemy on foot crossing open terrain with no place to hide. Their back against a river that can easily be cutoff. I would announce a treasure hunt for gold pieces just to keep them coming.
Russian T-72B3M upgrade costs like $1 million USD per tank. You can get like three of those for cost of one T-90M brand new.
Upgraded T-90M tanks from T-90 stocks are cheaper than whole new builds too of course. I think it is like $2 million USD or close.
Maybe it got cheaper now that the T-90M got into mass production.
Imagine them just using the Su-35 or MiG-31 as cover for the bombers and just plastering everything with Tu-22M3 high altitude carpet bomb dumps like the Soviets did in Afghanistan. By now Ukraine probably ran out of whole S-300 systems.
Upgraded T-90M tanks from T-90 stocks are cheaper than whole new builds too of course. I think it is like $2 million USD or close.
Maybe it got cheaper now that the T-90M got into mass production.
No. They are taking this pretty seriously. But the Russian President's rules of engagement only allow them to take things so far.
Imagine them just using the Su-35 or MiG-31 as cover for the bombers and just plastering everything with Tu-22M3 high altitude carpet bomb dumps like the Soviets did in Afghanistan. By now Ukraine probably ran out of whole S-300 systems.
For the Russians, this was not an invasion, but a liberation operation. The focus is not on the current attack on Ukraine, but on making the liberated Ukrainian regions as easy to govern as possible. A relatively small and slow attack, showing as much goodwill as possible, letting Zelensky drain all his government's diplomatic prestige, credibility, and assets, and getting as many Ukrainians as possible to stop supporting Kyiv is the point. Russians are liberating their people. Just like what we do during the civil war with KMT.