The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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Russia deploys the so-called 3rd Army Corps, made up of volunteers... Apparently receiving modern armored units like T-80s and T-90s

However, reports say they are untrained and undisciplined volunteers.



How long is the minimum required to train combat-ready tank crews, as well as operators of artillery and air defense systems, especially if the training is for volunteers with little experience in these systems???...


Being drunk and harassing means nothing. Every time the Royal Navy visits a port there is plenty of extreme drunkenness, with local military police in high alert, sometimes pulling some arrests.
 

RottenPanzer

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Russia deploys the so-called 3rd Army Corps, made up of volunteers... Apparently receiving modern armored units like T-80s and T-90s

However, reports say they are untrained and undisciplined volunteers.



How long is the minimum required to train combat-ready tank crews, as well as operators of artillery and air defense systems, especially if the training is for volunteers with little experience in these systems???...
Quoting Washington Post is clearly a not very bias move right?
 

TongHua

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I don't think they would make their best equipment available to inexperienced volunteers, that would be a very silly idea, it would be much easier to equip this large unit with mid-level or low-quality equipment.

This is the large unit formed:
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This new Russian Army unit is mainly composed of volunteers that will be equipped with T-90M, T-80BVM and BMP-3 armored tanks (2015) with soldiers armed with the new AK-12 rd 2020 rifle and the body armor 6B45 series bullets 2020. New offensive? We do not know. But it's practically a new O division.

3rd Corps reminds me of Syria 5th Corps which was trained by Russians around 2017 / 2018 time frame.
 

delta115

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I don’t know either! The idea of Russia being a major military power has been completely shattered for me. If you imagine replacing Russia with the US or China, do you think this conflict wouldn’t have been effectively over within the first week, he’ll within the first 48 hrs?

I am sure you see an insurgency like in Iraq and Afghanistan, but the government would be toppled and conventional military forces would be decimated.
Depend on the factor.

US would have even worse casulties than Russia if they going in with the same mindset and tactics in 2003 Iraq Invasion. Think about this... an Iraqi military with outdated equipment and training can cause serious damage to US in the initial stage of invasion. Peoples seem to forget that US invasion of Iraq is not actually smooth.

- In the first few days, US have supply issues. Some convoy even got ambushed.
- US maneuvering warfare in Iraq is pretty reckless and disregard a lot of safety. They are lucky that Iraqi army are not well equip. Imagine if they facing ATGM instead of old shitty RPG. US famous Thunder Run would end up as massacre if they do that in Ukraine.
- Iraq didn't have internation support in term of supply, training, intel and propaganda. Ukraine have all of that.

And that even with US disregard for civilian casulties unlike Russia who got criticized for being too soft by their supporter.
 

Jianguo

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I find this hard to believe but we should keep watch. If nothing else we can add it to the list of fake news.
British intelligence has been horribly wrong since the Ukraine conflict began. Literally every single Western intelligence source has been 90%+ wrong since this started while Russian sources have been 80-90%+ correct. When you have Western sources claiming the Russians are firing artillery on their own troops at a nuclear power plant that they already control, you know there's alot of BS being thrown around. Still, there's that 10% chance they aren't completely BullS**ting, so.... LOL
 
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