Seems like Russia is quite powerful if it is able to do all this to core NATO allies. How can weak poor Russia coerce the 3rd largest economy in the world Germany?
The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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Europe's (France and Germany) real fault is letting itself being an US colony, not breaking NATO the shackle at the end of cold war. Scholz' fault is not standing up for Germany's interest when US blew up nordstream. Merkel's fault was that she did not strongly and forcefully continue the path set by Kohl and Shroeder to balance US and Russia in Europe. This led to her other fault, not cleanzing German intellegence agency and gerverment of US mole when her phone was wired by NSA.
If Kohl and Shroeder's path was continued, NATO would have long gone, remember the Franco-German brigade? Or European defence initiative? They are the alternative to NATO with Europe (France and Germany) being the center instead of US. If this happened, there won't be NATO expansion, Ukraine would not have been enticed by US to join NATO, there wouldn't have been the ongoing war. Europe basically allowed the US to turn EU and its neighbours into a battle ground with Russia, yet you seems not seeing the enemy who pushed you into a firefight that isn't necessarily yours. In Chinese, we call it "you are sold and helping the seller who sold you counting the money."
If you are really from east Germany as your profile says, you should not have laid all the blames on German leaders who had at least tried somehow to get Germany stronger and more independent. It is like blaming the rape victim (Europe) for not cooperating with the rapist (USA) as if you really enjoy being dominated by the US who fed you day and night that Russia is the one to blame.
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It’s pointless to lay the blame on individual European politicians which are in bed with the same Anglo-American financial establishment that is the foundation of their economic and political stability. Russia and China sow divisions in this unipolar arrangement by providing Europe alternatives in the form of cheap energy from the former and investment capital from the latter, but at any moment the security hierarchy of NATO can discipline unruly members by provoking a war which highlights the disarmed military readiness and weakness of Western European nations which will actually be on the front line of a potential war. The only way to prove that NATO cannot defend its subjects is on the battlefield, otherwise the liberal establishment will always choose to hide under its umbrella.
The Russians aim to do exactly that by fighting NATO to exhaustion in the Donbas and forcing a new security architecture which doesn’t give America the opportunity to provoke future wars. They will either negotiate a settlement with the current liberal parties in power or hope for the election of populist forces that base their power not on the business elite with the most capital, but the working class.
The Russians aim to do exactly that by fighting NATO to exhaustion in the Donbas and forcing a new security architecture which doesn’t give America the opportunity to provoke future wars. They will either negotiate a settlement with the current liberal parties in power or hope for the election of populist forces that base their power not on the business elite with the most capital, but the working class.
Unfortunately for Ukraine only utter destruction and humiliation will be sufficient to establish a new reality in the heads of common westerners that they are powerless to impose security threats on Russia. They shouldn't have insisted on humiliating Russia as a condition, because the end result has never been in question, only the degree of defeat.
Germany had been using Soviet gas since the Cold War. Ronald Reagan tried to stop the construction of the gas pipelines which went from Russia through Ukraine into Germany and the US tried to hobble their construction all the way.
That pipeline was one of the greatest successes of the West German Ostpolitik.
Fat chance of that. Ukraine's army was in a miserable condition in 2007.
Remember what happened to Georgia when it thought the Russians would be pushovers.
Russia could have easily invaded and annexed Ukraine in part or whole back then.
Ukraine had already applied to NATO and even sent troops to aid the US invasion of Iraq in 2003.
What dirt does Putin have on Schroeder, Merkel and Scholz that they were so eager to get so dependent on Russia for hydrocarbons? Who demanded that they disarm and destroy the Bundeswehr? Who did not spend even 2% of the budget on defense and even that 2% was not really spent on defense? The Bundeswehr could not repair equipment, because it had to wait until 95% of, say, tanks needed new spare parts and only then it was possible to give permission for a tender, and after a year of tender to make an offer to the manufacturer and wait another 2 years until everything was delivered. Merkel sent generals into retirement for the slightest criticism of this clear betrayal of the country's interests. Many examples could be cited. Three fools in a row were ministers of defense, the last one even after a year in office had no concept of military ranks. Enough disgrace for a lifetime.
I told you. The Germans started importing gas from the Soviet Union when Willy Brandt was Chancellor.
As for why they increased the footprint of natural gas in the economy you can thank the Green Party in Germany for forcing the nuclear phaseout. Schroeder cut a deal with the Greens in order to get a ruling majority in Germany. And the only reasonably inexpensive alternative the Greens would accept was renewables with natural gas for peaking. Coal is too expensive because of carbon taxes also due to Green agenda.
West Germany bordered the Warsaw Pact. Modern Germany borders NATO countries. So this was to be expected.
It is Poland and Romania who will have to take the brunt of the defense burden.
As for the lack of investment into the German armed forces, there were cuts in government investment all around. Germany had this holier than thou attitude after the 2007-2008 Global Financial Crisis where they decided austerity was the solution to all ills. And that is also when caps to government deficits where put into place.
Because of that the trains and the military in Germany are dysfunctional. Germany has an obsolete network infrastructure with most of the country still on DSL.
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The German locomotive has stopped, it is cheaper to buy in China than to make it yourself. I started buying from temu myself. But this is for other reasons, there is enough money for expensive local products.
Why is NATO and Zarad's economy failing? ХI in China is only following the selection of smart managers in all vital spheres, not letting the oligarchs forget the true interests of the country. In the West, oligarchs chase profit, often at the expense of national interests. In addition, the partocracy acts as a 5th column and thinks about themselves and the government, but not about the country. The same Ze in Ukraine immediately started fighting for a piece of cake, although there was a war unleashed by Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs for markets. And Putin had his lion's share everywhere, besides, he began to dream about the glory of a national hero returning Russia to its former greatness.
Simply since Germany is no longer what is was, since Germany and most of all Germans don't have the balls to make necessary decisions and face tough consequence! We are just weak ... even if maybe we still have the "3rd largest economy in the world".
But I think this all is now off-topic!
Another Ukrainian position this time in Liman gets hit by a FAB.
Marines of the 810rd Brigade examine their captured trophies, including an entire box of FPV drones. The stuff is going to be reused.
Kirpi knocked out by FPV near Trudovoye.
FPV takes out a Maxxpro in the Kursk region.
Russian MoD confirms the capture of Volchenka in the Kurakhovo direction.
Leopard 1A4 or 1A5 taken out by FPV. The tank has been heavily added with Kontakt bricks, Mangals and other stuff.
BMP-2M with Berezhok spotted.
Massive Ukrainian drone attack against Moscow. It appears 35 were shot down, another 14 over Byransk.
Marines of the 810rd Brigade examine their captured trophies, including an entire box of FPV drones. The stuff is going to be reused.
Kirpi knocked out by FPV near Trudovoye.
FPV takes out a Maxxpro in the Kursk region.
Russian MoD confirms the capture of Volchenka in the Kurakhovo direction.
Leopard 1A4 or 1A5 taken out by FPV. The tank has been heavily added with Kontakt bricks, Mangals and other stuff.
BMP-2M with Berezhok spotted.
Massive Ukrainian drone attack against Moscow. It appears 35 were shot down, another 14 over Byransk.