The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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Its odd because if you go to the account, it works.


Afterwards three Kozaks were destroyed by FPV drones.

The ambushers appear to be elements of the 810rd Marine Brigade and the 11th VDV Brigade.

Previous to this, the 810rd ran close range ambushes with BTR-82A raking 30mm fire on Ukrainian AFVs.

Originally it was assumed it was ex-Wagner forces.

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The three Kozaks, the BMP-2 and the M113 consisted of a total of 60 personnel.

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More data appears that American mercenaries were in the column, belonging to the so called Forward Observation Group, and they were killed.

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TK3600

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There is a clearer video of the mess. A Russian BMP-3 tries to hit an M113 thats trying to escape, meanwhile an Ukranian MRAP and BMP-2 roll up behind the BMP-3; for some reason the BMP-2 initially fires on the MRAP but quickly stops and parks behind the BMP-3, maybe thinking it is friendly or something.
The BMP-3 turns the turret around and minces the BMP-2 and the area where the soldiers dismounted from the MRAP

The BMP3 is missing shots at targets 20m away. Crazy. Also the two barrel are so far away from each other I don't think it is a BMP3.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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What is going on with the War?

Based on the media reports, Ukraine keeps attacking Russia at the moment. Whether its ground assaults, missiles or mass drone assault. How come Ukraine has so much attack potential compared to Russia? I thought Russia was supposed to do a summer offensive, but that never happened. Instead its Ukraine doing 2 offensives inside Russia now. Is Russia losing to Ukraine?
Ukraine abandoned Donbass and has up to 1/3 of its entire armed forces attacking Kursk and making a few km of advances there while being bombed so hard it makes Desert Storm highway of death look like a picnic.
 

tokenanalyst

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Ukraine abandoned Donbass and has up to 1/3 of its entire armed forces attacking Kursk and making a few km of advances there while being bombed so hard it makes Desert Storm highway of death look like a picnic.
"When your front is at the verge of collapsing open a new front, for PR purposes of course, so you have now to take resources from the collapsing front to defend the new front"

-Zelenski art of war
 

TK3600

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"When your front is at the verge of collapsing open a new front, for PR purposes of course, so you have now to take resources from the collapsing front to defend the new front"

-Zelenski art of war
They are clearly using the "besiege wei to save zhao" of the "36 strategem". Except in this case, it backfired. Russia is limited by politics to not use conscripts in Ukraine. Therefore only attrition of Russian professionals has any meaning deciding the fight. By attacking Russian homeland, Russia is legally allowed to use conscripts to fight, instead of pulling professionals in Donbass. Any damage they inflict on conscripts has no role deciding the war, because conscripts can't enter Ukraine.

Now they are fighting professionals + conscripts, instead of just professional. Previously Russian had less manpower, for only professionals are usable. Now the manpower advantage shifted to Russia, since conscripts is allowed to fight Ukrainians in Kursk. Terrible decision for UA.
 

taxiya

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I think the Ukraine isn't really doing "besiege wei to save zhao", or if they think they are doing they certainly has miss the essential point of it.

The key of sucess of such move is to attack (with high certainty of winning) the critical point of the enemy. This is an open secret, the enemy has to comply regardless. Wei was besieging the capital of Zhao at the time and had very light defense of its own capital. Qi went streight to besiege Wei's capital, Pang Juan had to return and near zero chance of not being defeated because his soldiers were rushing day and night while his enemy rested well and waited in comfort.

For Ukraine to make it work, it has to put a critical location of Russia in risk of imminent fall. No location is within the reach of Ukraine's capability of manpower it has put in. Ukraine can not pull any more troops from existing lines. The two sides are glued to each other at these lines. Russia would closely follow any Ukrainian troops pulling back. Even if Ukraine somehow managed to move all its forces at the new direction without being chased by Russians and took Kursk, it would immediately loose the existing line and Kiev would fall before Kursk, and game over.

The only military value that I can imagine is that if Russia magically gathered a large force in the Kursk region for a supprise attack, Ukraine detected and decided to disrupt such attack pre-emptively. But it isn't the case apparently.
 

Tam

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Ukrainians attacked a railway ferry with fuel tanks in the port of Kavkaz with a Neptun-U missile. Apparently the ship sank with 15 onboard, who were all rescued.

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Failed Ukrainian counterattack at Glubokoe left two BTR-4E destroyed.

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Another Kozak-7 destroyed at Russkaya Konopelka.

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BTR-4 attacked by FPV in the Pokrovsk direction.

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Cossacks raised the Russian flag over Solovyovo and presented trophy Kraken flag to the ataman Vitaly Kuznetsov. Presenting are members of the Terek Brigade and BARS-15 Ermak Battalion. Group Center of Forces. Also BARS-23 Zaporozhye Cossacks was recently formed.

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Soldiers of Group South captured a position from the AFU 79th Brigade near Konstantinovka.

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FAB arrives on Ukrainian positions. Location not mentioned.

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Warehouse and fuel tank destroyed by a Ukrainian drone attack on the Marinovka airfield in the Volgograd region.

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Russian tanks hit a Ukrainian checkpoint Bachvesk near the Byransk border. Long column of tanks stationary what they hell are they thinking?

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The Mad Dogs took out an M113 in the Pokrovsk direction.

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ATGM takes out Ukrainian vehicle in the Toretsk direction.

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nugroho

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What is going on with the War?

Based on the media reports, Ukraine keeps attacking Russia at the moment. Whether its ground assaults, missiles or mass drone assault. How come Ukraine has so much attack potential compared to Russia? I thought Russia was supposed to do a summer offensive, but that never happened. Instead its Ukraine doing 2 offensives inside Russia now. Is Russia losing to Ukraine?
NATO "on the ground " disguised as mercenary
 

Tam

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The BMP3 is missing shots at targets 20m away. Crazy. Also the two barrel are so far away from each other I don't think it is a BMP3.

Could be a BMP-3 with Berezhok turret. Or a BMP-2 with Berezhok turret. However the Telegram channel of the VDV calls it a BMP-3 so I'll go with BMP-3. A Berezhok turret would have fit that description --- 30mm 2A72 gun, one 30mm grenade launcher, one machine gun, two or four ATGMs. The 30mm gun is accurate in single or few shots fired, but sustained, it's not.

It appears that the BMP-3 is from the 11th VDV, which are manned by Buryats. Buryats are Mongolians living in the Russian proper.

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