The War in the Ukraine

sheogorath

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It appears that the VKS first used the FAB-3000 with the UMPC module in a building in front of Kharkov. It looks like a CEP of more than 30 meters, considering the inaccuracy of the bomb.
You say this as if we haven't seen dozens of videos of UMPC bombs being quite accurate. Another source claims it is a thermobaric ODAB, so a direct hit wouldn't make sense, either.
 

Soldier30

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The Russian army used the super-powerful FAB-3000 M-54 bombs for the first time in Ukraine; technical information about them is in the link to the video in the comments to the video. It is worth noting that some believe that a FAB-1500 bomb was used. The bomb was allegedly dropped from a Tu-22M3 bomber; what carrier was used is not reported. The strike was carried out on the temporary deployment point of Ukrainian units in the village of Liptsy, Kharkov region. The deviation of the FAB-3000 bomb from the target was about 15 meters, which is acceptable for bombs of this class.

 

iBBz

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US halting MIM Patriot orders and diverting them to Ukraine. The desperation is reaching new heights.

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Great article written by Simplicius the Thinker that outlines Putin's trip to the DPRK, Russian and DPRK MIC stats, the F-16 situation, and many more facts about the current situation on the frontlines.

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Some paragraphs from the article regarding shell production numbers:

-Not only does this tightening of relations represent the likely increase of conventional staple North Korean munitions to the Russian army, it also suggests the possibility of much more comprehensive supplies in the future; i.e. not just shells and small arms, but possibly entire weapons systems like MLRS, light and heavy armor, etc.

-Not only is North Korea’s current peacetime production capable of a massive 2 million 152mm shells per year, the South Korean expert source believes they can ramp this by 2x or 3x to a whopping 4-6m. To put that in perspective, the entire combined West could not deliver even 1 million shells to Ukraine, and that’s after trying to desperately source them all over the world. The U.S. has just ‘proudly’ announced their ramp up to 36k shell per month production, a measly ~430,000 a year, with the slated schedule to ramp to 80,000 a month—or 960k a year—by the year 2028.

-Meanwhile, not only is Russia already said to be hitting 4-5M a year soon, but North Korea does 2M and can quickly ramp to 6M. In short, Russia’s strategic defensive initiative with North Korea promises to keep Russia’s artillery-thirsty army more than quenched indefinitely.
 

nugroho

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Forget the US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. Don't take them as an example. I'm asking you on what basis Russia can invade and attack military assets of other countries under international law.

Again, what is the basis for this?

Russia invaded Crimea. It violated international law. Russia held a referendum after the invasion, in which the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation was approved. Another international law violated.

Then Russia invaded Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts. He practically did the same thing as he did with Crimea. Violated international laws.

Therefore, I question, on what international legal basis does Russia have the right to self-defense based on Article 51 of the UN in the event that American drones are flying over international airspace, actively participating with Ukraine in targets within the sovereign territory of Ukraine recognized including by Russia?

The Security Council did not condemn it, because Russia has the power to veto. But the resolution at the UN General Assembly on Russia was condemned by a large majority:
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The UN Charter only allows wars in self-defense against an attack or with authorization from the organization's Security Council.
Can you write/mention international laws about wars that apply to every country in this world ?
What about looting Summer Palace ?
What about 8-nation action in 1900/01 ?
What about every war US did to another nation?
Is there any international law ?
How about Ukraine coup , can you tell me about the law ? Is it legal ?
 

Tam

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US halting MIM Patriot orders and diverting them to Ukraine. The desperation is reaching new heights.

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Great article written by Simplicius the Thinker that outlines Putin's trip to the DPRK, Russian and DPRK MIC stats, the F-16 situation, and many more facts about the current situation on the frontlines.

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Some paragraphs from the article regarding shell production numbers:

-Not only does this tightening of relations represent the likely increase of conventional staple North Korean munitions to the Russian army, it also suggests the possibility of much more comprehensive supplies in the future; i.e. not just shells and small arms, but possibly entire weapons systems like MLRS, light and heavy armor, etc.

-Not only is North Korea’s current peacetime production capable of a massive 2 million 152mm shells per year, the South Korean expert source believes they can ramp this by 2x or 3x to a whopping 4-6m. To put that in perspective, the entire combined West could not deliver even 1 million shells to Ukraine, and that’s after trying to desperately source them all over the world. The U.S. has just ‘proudly’ announced their ramp up to 36k shell per month production, a measly ~430,000 a year, with the slated schedule to ramp to 80,000 a month—or 960k a year—by the year 2028.

-Meanwhile, not only is Russia already said to be hitting 4-5M a year soon, but North Korea does 2M and can quickly ramp to 6M. In short, Russia’s strategic defensive initiative with North Korea promises to keep Russia’s artillery-thirsty army more than quenched indefinitely.


Let's not forget Iran is still supplying shells and drones.

North Korea is already supplying Grad rockets and possibly their own ballistic missiles.


East of Kharkhiv, village of Khotomiya, M270 MLRS gets spotted by UAV and hit with Iskander.

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T-64BV hit with Lancet.

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The 238th Brigade provides artillery support for the 20th Division as it advances to Konstantinovka (village).

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Bradley burning west of Ochertino.

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2km breakthrough by Russian forces at the Torestk sector.

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Ukrainian military man returns from two years of war to find out that the military commisar that sent him to war is sleeping with his wife.

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Ukrainian T-80BV struck by FPV drone at the rear.

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Krasnopol or drone adjusted artillery shell hits a Ukrainian transport.

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Ukrainian APC hit by Lancet in the Kharkhiv region.

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Russian artillery takes out a Ukrainian field ammo depot in the Kharkhiv region at Liptsy.

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TOS arrives at Ukrainian positions in Volchansk.

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Krab SPG gets hit by Lancet.

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Ukrainian drones intercepted over Mariupol.

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A Ukrainian FPV drone is stuck in the cope cage of a T-72B3. A hazardous task performed to remove it.

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Modernized Orion UAV 'Pacer' takes flight.

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Ukrainian Lyuty drone crashes somewhere near Odessa. This type of drone used in long range kamekaze attacks.

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Ukrainian temporary deployment point inside a building gets hit by Krasnopol from the 238th, firing from a MSTA-B.

 

blackjack21

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It appears that the VKS first used the FAB-3000 with the UMPC module in a building in front of Kharkov. It looks like a CEP of more than 30 meters, considering the inaccuracy of the bomb.
I dont think the accuracy is important with this kind of kill radius
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Despite the absence of a direct hit of the aerial bomb directly into the building, the deviation of the FAB was no more than a dozen meters, which is more than a satisfactory result for ammunition of this type. At the same time, the radius of continuous destruction of the FAB-3000 is 230 meters, and the fragments retain their killing power at a distance of more than 1200 meters. As you can see in the footage, the building was significantly damaged, in addition, as a result of the explosion, several nearby low-rise buildings were completely destroyed.
 

gelgoog

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Great article written by Simplicius the Thinker that outlines Putin's trip to the DPRK, Russian and DPRK MIC stats, the F-16 situation, and many more facts about the current situation on the frontlines.

Part of this theory stemmed from the understanding that Russia only manufactures new T-72s, while T-90Ms and T-80s are all created from refurbished and finite hulls. However, Russia’s UVZ released a new video last week which showed a fresh T-90 hull being manufactured from scratch, distinguished by clips of its uniquely reinforced sections—which differ from the T-72—being milled and machined. This appears to suggest that Russia is now manufacturing completely new T-90s.
UVZ manufactures both new T-90Ms and refurbishes old T-90's into T-90Ms. It has been this way from the start of T-90M production.
It is a mistake to compare UVZ production in peacetime with wartime production with triple the work time schedule. Single 8h shift Monday to Friday -> Two 12h shifts Monday to Saturday.
Russia could speed up hull production by adding back automatic welding to it. The automatic tank hull welding was taken out in Yeltsin's time. Probably as some kind of gesture to the US. But the Russian automotive industry knows how to use modern robots and this could be put back into the line if boosting production is necessary.
 

Tam

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Building identified being used by Ukrainian troops by the presence of a Starlink array. The building was visited by an FPV drone and burned down after the explosion.

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A Baba Yaga got dropped on by another drone.

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Night strike on a Ukrainian warehouse on the right side of Kherson using an ODAB-1500.

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AFU construction crane being used to build barriers hit by FPV drone.

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Ukrainian mortar nest takes a direct hit from artillery. Kharkhiv sector.

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Ukrainian soldiers retreating into new defensive positions in the forests, which are bombarded by artillery. From the Center Group of Forces.

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Belarus Ministry of Defense suddenly announces an elevated state of readiness.

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Ukrainian M777 and Giatsint-B howitzers taken out by drone assisted strikes, likely Krasnopol, on the right bank of Kherson.

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Ukrainian D-20 howitzer taken out by Lancet in the Kharkhiv front.

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Ukrainian communication and observation tower gets taken out by drone.

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TOS crew in the Kharkhiv front. This looks like a TOS-2.

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T-64BV hit by Lancet in the rear.


Ukrainian ZU-23-2 machine gun nest hit by Lancet. These machine guns are for old school AA defense against drones.


Orlan-30 and Krasnopoli at work on Ukrainian positions.

 
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